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標題: Gen-X 10 Pro Graphite Kit (World GT) [打印本頁]

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-22 02:36
標題: Gen-X 10 Pro Graphite Kit (World GT)
I CANT FIND IT IN KWS

JUST ORDER FORM US

1 x 1710 - Gen-X 10 Pro Graphite Kit (World GT)
1 x World GT Spec Tire - Front
1 x World GT Spec Tire - Rear
2 x Sophia GT 200mm World GT Body

ANY BOTHER KNOW CAN I USE 3.5MOTOR?
AND WHITCH SERVO GOOD FOR THIS CAR....

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-3-22 12:21
It should available in KWS for the kit, front and rear tire.  GO to cat shop to have a check.  I bought mine a months agaon and 2 set of tire.
You can use all 200mm shell, and I use HPI's BMW M3 in TRC.  However, it roll over much, it should be my setting problem...ke..ke...
I use SP's 10.5 R.  close to 23 T.  It is very slow in TRC...I almost sleep.....ke..ke...
Not use for 3.5r.....
Normal 12 son servo nequire, and not full size allowed.
Also, you need this http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/modul ... &prodID=7719034  to reduce the rollover....  and this for 235mm body.  ~400 HKD in CatShop
http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/modul ... &prodID=7719021

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-22 14:36
thx bother that think i bought it too..thx...
so u say only can use 12son servo....means i only can use 9650?
cant use 9551? or any good servo i can use?
so what motor is good for this car....
i got ko esc
3.5t/9t/17.5t/

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-3-22 16:27
No sure for servo, at least I tried to mount a 9650, but it is too big.  THen I mount a very aged 12 sone servo, it is OK.  So, just mount and use it.
FOr motor, what I tried so far is SP 's 11.5.  and Novak XBR SC, no top speed indeed.  I do believe it could handle 5.5 or even 3.5.
But the kit's spring (front and side) is too soft for high tracking track like TRC.  RollOver very easy even if setup to 4mm front and rear.  And make my BMW shell damage.....

Be ware the kit's screw, the look great but very easy to damage by screw driver, as they are very SOFT.

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-22 20:50
HAHA!~THXS I WILL BEWARE ABOUT THE SCREW!~
EVEN 9650 WILL TOO BIG......

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-3-22 21:35
I find that i must set the throttle curve for very gentle acceleration at initial or otherwise it will too easy to spin when exit corner. I am using SP 3.5R. May be that is too powerful for it?

ANd how the front stiffner can help on the handling? Please let me know more before I buy it. thanks!

And agree that the screw is too soft....

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-3-22 21:36
And EDI, where you order your kit from? US Website directly? Can you share?

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-22 22:06

原帖由 henryb4sun 於 2009-3-22 21:36 發表

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And EDI, where you order your kit from? US Website directly? Can you share?

OK... I ORDER FROM http://www.nexusracing.com/index.php AND http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/index.php
BUT NEXUSRACING IS CHEAPER THAN CRC,,,BUT CRC HAVE ALL STOCK,,,I JUST BOUGHT 2SET GT TIRES FORM CRC...
I WILL PUT 3.5MOTOR TOO..BUT WHAT PINION GEAR U USE?

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-22 22:09
AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENT ABOUT 1/10 TOURING AND 1/10 WORLD GT?

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-3-22 22:10
The front stiffner, in theory, make the front suspenson structure more rigid.  And making more push head.  Effective as if using harder spring.  And more strong front structure.
To me, it really make more push and easier to drive.  But I change several setup together so, how much it controbute on "push"  not sure.
Your spining issus happen in my 12 son.  Need to drive very gental when exit corner, when I use 6.5R on it.

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-3-22 22:27
EDI, I am using Speed Passion Sensored 5.5T motor and 26t spinion gear.

I also use front red spring and rear white spring. However I am new comer and still play on street (Yuen Long Wan Chow). It is simply too easy to spin. May be I should buy a 23t to try.

Basically I am setting up the car with the menu. Any recommendation on car height, front camber and toe in and caster?

I also don't know what is the difference between 1/10 touring and World GT.

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-22 23:33
and....one more thing...u guys use 4cell or 5cell? or lipo?

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-3-23 01:27
1:10 Touring, 4 wheel drive. World GT, rear drive. Corret me if I am wrong.
Playing on street is not good for the car. Go to track... such direct driver model is waste the car ah, if playing on street. There are too dirty for them.
And I use Lipo for playing this on TRC

作者: Concept 時間: 2009-3-23 09:03

原帖由 EDI 於 2009-3-22 22:09 發表

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AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENT ABOUT 1/10 TOURING AND 1/10 WORLD GT?

defenition from IFMAR that 1:10 touring(ISTC) would be:
overall width : 190mm max.
both 2wd/4wd is allowed.
direct driving system is not allowed.
tire width max. 24mm and 64 mm dia. max. Rubber tire only.
in general the body shell only real car with 4 door.

for 1:10 GT world, not yet recognize by IFMAR, now it still under a so called "funny purpose" category, but the defenition would be:
overall width : 200mm max.
direct drive system only now.
sponge tire and the size similar to 1:10 pan car.
the body shell, as the category implied, only GT world.
4 cells sub-C size battery only.

The above may wrong/missing, pls. correct me.

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-28 11:37

No sure for servo, at least I tried to mount a 9650, but it is too big. THen I mount a very aged 12 sone servo, it is OK. So, just mount and use it.
FOr motor, what I tried so far is SP 's 11.5. a ...
benz1850 發表於 2009-3-22 16:27

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hey bother BENZ1850!~ i just go kws today...they say the car can use even9551 servo woo....not use 1/12 servo woo

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-3-28 14:02
本帖最後由 benz1850 於 2009-3-28 20:09 編輯

Cat shop? Hope those gal true. I just mout my 9550 and I can't to that, I am disappointed as I want to use it for it's shorter in size. As it is too wide. I hope I am wrond la, so that you could save $$$ for tire, for palying together later.

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-28 23:34
no cat a~! i only go x全 ...they say use standard size woo...i still waiting my car....

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-3-29 08:03
Hi EDI,

I want to use 9451 before but that is too tall.

So I use 9650 now. Size is perfect for GenX10.

Henry

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-30 22:35
heee!~ no time today..will do it tomorrow night

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-3-31 00:57
You bought 2 bumpers? Remember those beautiful red Al screw are all SOFT....be careful!!!

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-31 08:29
haha!~ thxq bother benz ..

i will be careful about the petty screw

i will use top toy and 9650 9.5t first....
later trytry ko esc ko949 3.5.....
but i ask x全..they say dont use 3.5

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-3-31 16:14
EDI,

I am going to try again the GenX10 tonight. I rebuild it on sunday on ride height, ball differential and front toe in.

Previously handling is....too "naughty". haha...I can't manage it.

Really need to be careful on the screw. So soft....

Henry

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-3-31 16:33
wa~!你地一以再咁提醒我!~我真係好驚woo

玩起上黎有冇問題gar

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-3-31 19:07
haha...don't worry. I just ask you to be careful je!
At least...i played a few times with my 5.5T....so far not yet "self destruct"! haha...

But some comment from me when assembly this CRC GenX10

1)There are so many different size screws! I don't know why need so many different size. They give you all necessary hex screw driver but for me, that is too inconvenient. All my existing screw drivers for Japan/Europe model not fit this US kit.

2)My kit...the ball differential is not very good. The differential plate can't sit onto the holder and I need to modify it a little bit. I don't expect this will happen. Some other plastic part also need certain hand modify. (I built Tamiya/Kyosho/HPI/Xray/Tech Racing car before, Xray is the best, no doubt. Second is HPI)

But I must say...after I complete it....it really looks cool! haha...I like the red color screw and the design of center placed battery. This is very nice.

Enjoy it.

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-4-1 00:52
just assembly to servo mont....

byt how come no sdervo saver gar

i try to use xway 1/12 servo saver,,,but too short......
and the red screw is really really really fucxxxg soft....how come like that:funk:i think i will buy some tamiya screw...i got so many red screw fucx up...

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-4-1 02:52
本帖最後由 benz1850 於 2009-4-1 16:45 編輯

oh....Brother EDI. Sad to know lots of your screw is {banned} up. How you can fit the replacement. Remember those screw is British standard, in inche, not matric. You can't use tamiya screw for metal parts.
Servo mount, just use normal 1/12 saver should be ok ka bo....I use 12 son saver bought from cat shop. It works for me...

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-4-1 07:43
okok bother benz

i will go cat shop today see see thx!~

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-4-1 07:52
今次第一次砌crc.

少少失望..比起xway(12)砌起上黎樣樣就住就往差D差D麻鬼煩煩......

,
人地xway砌起上黎樣樣簡單清楚...,
不過呢我係(樓)D紅色SCREW姐...等我今日去揾D藍色TRD SCREW攪攪先,
仲有,BALL LINK膠頭又(媽)吓先..D膠薄到死...不過好似喺美製車特點

,
希望砌起會過引D啦

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-4-1 16:48
Don't screw TRD screw into CRC metal parts ah...you will damage both.
You you should not compare XRay with US made model, like CRC or AE. CRC and AE is bad in quality, esp on plastic portion. XRay, a delux product la....

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-4-2 07:52
終於叫做砌好!~真係好紅

現發現兩問題

車尾唔知點解側埋一邊,,攪極到攪唔好.仲攪到有粒screw超滑牙

servo已裝好,但servo好有怪聲...(頂servo的聲音)

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-4-2 11:27
any picture? Which screw 滑牙?
May be it that is the side spring issue

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-4-2 12:27
滑牙有乜辦法呢

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-4-2 15:49
EDI,

Do you aware that the link rod for steering are different size for left/right in your kit? Mine find this problem. And the length is too short that I can't make it a little bit toe in. I need to find alternative.

And your servo mounted higher than normal? Any special purpose?

Henry

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-4-2 17:24
我都唔係幾明..Y粒BALL頭唔ARM位又太"林"
我張隻SERVO放咁高係因為想兩條BALL LINK平行D冇咁多阻力

但我从家隻SERVO重有小小怪聲

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-4-3 00:33
EDI, do you find the front ride height too high? I need to add extra spacer for it but can't use their spacer to stack up as the red screw not long enough. So I need to add spacer on the mounting toward chassis.

Henry

作者: benz1850 時間: 2009-4-3 01:20
Brother EDI and Henry;

Share my X10 first.

My streering rod is same length and size.  And the length enough for me to set toe out/in.
EDI, my servo also have tricky sound, but I just ignore it...and the hight of your servo will make the ackerman change.
滑牙....you need a ~3mm drill and break the head of the crew, then, see what can be done after the head removed.  50% chance you need to buy parts #3337.  I saw cat shop have stock.
Henry, you need to use longer screw in order to set the ride high.  I give up the red screw and change to matric / ti screw for stacking of those spacer.  It doesn't matter as those screw can't be seen from external

作者: henryb4sun 時間: 2009-4-3 01:36
Benz,

Yes I know I need longer screw but not I have another spacer for it so may be still ok.

I still feel the ball differential not moving smoothly when I tighten it. I think I will go to cat shop to buy new differential gear and ceramic ball tmr. I suspect that is the key suspect for my easy spinning even in straight road.

作者: EDI 時間: 2009-4-3 07:57

Brother EDI and Henry;

Share my X10 first.

My streering rod is same length and size. And the length enough for me to set toe out/in.
EDI, my servo also have tricky sound, but I just ignore it. ...
benz1850 發表於 2009-4-3 01:20

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HAHA BOTHER BENZ!~ 粒滑牙拎番出黎LA..淨係要買番粒SCREW,..

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