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作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-25 16:42
標題: 新手 NT1 or RX8?
新手想玩车. 有遥控油及電直多年經驗. 1/8 or 1/10 比較容易上手? 1/8 是否激一點? 想購買最好的, 唔想慢慢upgrade.

相信第一次砌及set车, 失败率会相当高,有無師父有全套服务包带入场, 怎样聯絡? Please PM me.

如1/8, 除RX8, 有無其他選擇?

如1/10, NT! 2010 WC edition or 2011 spec?

電车T3 好吗?

感謝幫忙

作者: Timothypychan 時間: 2011-7-25 16:49
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MRX5 is better

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-25 16:51
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Mugen?

作者: Timothypychan 時間: 2011-7-25 17:03
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Yes

作者: hk_sdu 時間: 2011-7-25 17:04
At start 1/10 GP or EP will be better to handle.
1/10 GP, NT1 is has the highest no. of player
1/10 EP, T3 and 417 will not let u down
1/8 GP, for sure Mugen MRX5, its a big heat

Suggest u to go to TRC, they have both GP and EP tracks. All of lot of the people are very willing to help if u ask.

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-25 17:18
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Appreciate your helpful summary. It gives me a better general idea. More comments please, if possible. Is the RX8 too new (I see it was released earlier this year) and the product is not yet matured? Just a guess.

Just bought a 4PKS to get ready. Any building and setting up service for RC Cars. Will TRC do that for you? I know nobody in the RC Car playing field.

作者: hk_sdu 時間: 2011-7-25 17:38
i have no experience on 1/8 and RX8, need to wait for other C hing to comment

作者: lung1 時間: 2011-7-25 17:42
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新手想玩车. 有遥控油及電直多年經驗. 1/8 or 1/10 比較容易上手? 1/8 是否激一點? 想購買最 ...

$$$$$$$$> 1/8
$$$$$>1/10

作者: hk_sdu 時間: 2011-7-25 17:48
lung 1, i have a question?

IF $ x 5 = 1/10
$ x 8 = 1/8
Then $ x ? = 1/1

作者: lung1 時間: 2011-7-25 17:52

hk_sdu 發表於 2011-7-25 17:48

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lung 1, i have a question?

IF $ x 5 = 1/10

慢慢數

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作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-25 18:40
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NT1 or RX8? 2 different things, buy it all.
Either choice, RX8 for sure.

作者: msfone7w 時間: 2011-7-25 18:51
RX8 x 2

作者: serpentkkk 時間: 2011-7-25 20:49
玩唔係難,睇你可以用幾多錢黎玩，點樣為知最好我可以好明確話你知你就算一鋪過買一架capricorn加一台nova21pts再加一條nova死氣喉都末算最好，你要有以上全套服务冇問題，有錢就得啦大把人幫到你。

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-25 21:42
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How much are we talking about here? Are we talking about $x0,000 or $x00,000?

作者: serpentkkk 時間: 2011-7-25 22:57
我諗你這个問題令我都唔知點答你，如果你唔想攪甘多嘢玩1/8吧。你落模型鋪大吧師兄幫到你，不个我諗買齊料一部8仔加一台正啲引擎都過一萬元有多未計其他所需用品，如仲未明你就落kws問問鋪頭啦。

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-25 23:01

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玩唔係難,睇你可以用幾多錢黎玩，點樣為知最好我可以好明確話你知你就算一鋪過買一架capricorn加一台nova21 ...

最好係 RX8頭擔, +Capricorn頭扭腰板, +羊極力子, +Xray 油壓, 無限1,2波...........
有哂呢D架車都已經perfect, 用咩9 port engine都夠跑.

作者: serpentkkk 時間: 2011-7-25 23:28
你早啲講呀嘛beebone 師兄有齊已上特......精我諗吓都

作者: serpentkkk 時間: 2011-7-25 23:31
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Capricorn頭扭腰板?

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-26 00:10

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Capricorn頭扭腰板?

C08 有分頭/尾扭腰

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-26 00:53
CHing 們, 剛剛做了點Capricorn資料研究, 好似好複雜 wor!

作者: Hpibbq 時間: 2011-7-26 01:12
It really depends on you budget and time.

For a beginner, it is good to start with nt1.

作者: Hpibbq 時間: 2011-7-26 01:15

sabenza 發表於 2011-7-25 17:18

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Appreciate your helpful summary. It gives me a better general idea. More comme ...

building the is the part of playing.
it is not that difficult if you follows each step as shown in instruction manual.

if you dont want to build the car, you can get a ready-to-run kit first.

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-26 01:35
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Yep, building could be fun but it could sometimes be frustrating (especially when I have no experience in rc cars). I have done my fair share of rc heli building for years and if I can relate that to rc cars, it would be difficult to achieve what an experience builder can do and I may waste a completely good (and maybe expensive) car. It's sometimes a hurdle to get into a hobby especially when something is not built correctly and it will strip the fun out of the hobby.

In some cases, a person's job may also prevent him from building a model. I have known a few doctors who loves filying RC Heli but do not wish to involve in buiding RC Heli. If you were their patient, would you want a doctor with dirty fingers to touch you or put a thermometer in your mouth? I won't but that's just an example (maybe a bit far fetched though).

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-26 02:13
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Actually, to give you guys the whole story, one week ago, I bought a VORZA Flux HP and a Kysosho Inferno VE (ORION) and a 4PKS and 4 x Silverback lipo 6s (costing me over 14K already).  Both buggies are RTR.

I went to TRC one night and saw two guys playing some nitro on-road on the outdoor circuit.  It looks extremely fun and decided to give the hobby a serious go.  The problem is that there are so many choices of cars (1:10, 1:8, GP, EP, on-road, off-road, etc.) and in the RCTECH forum, most of the popular on-road cars have several hundred pages to read and I simply cannot find my "holy grail".  (I think NT1 has 500 pages.  Vorza has 400 pages.)

My two buggies (on Sweep slick tires) were crashed and broken at my fun night at TRC (it was fun) costing another $1,000 is replacement parts so I understand that this hobby is expensive.  Notwithstanding this, I still would like to go ahead and purchase an on road car in the next few days.

So far, Beebone Ching has suggested RX8 (from reading posts in this forum, he seems to be the undisputed expert on RX8).  Another suggests MCX5 which appears to have won the World Championship this year and is also a very good car.  Another CHing suggests Capricorn (which I am still learning what it is).

In the 1:8 world, which is the most popular model (something like an NT1 in the 1:10 world)?

Many many thanks to all the Chings.  I understand I asked a tough and difficult question in my original post and I hope to learn more.

作者: Hpibbq 時間: 2011-7-26 03:00

sabenza 發表於 2011-7-26 02:13

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Actually, to give you guys the whole story, one week ago, I bought a VORZA Flux ...

Pick the xray RX8.
I recommend you to go to the KWS shop "Red star".
Just pay them, they will build it for you.

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-26 03:09
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Thanks, HPIbbq

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-26 09:00
To be honest, u can see what I wrote on Rctech about RX8.
If u look for some speed to start with, so go for NT1.
If u look for xcitement, go for 1/8. Mrx5 is most popular, but too fragile for beginner on 1/8 on road. RX8 is very reliable, but needs time to fine tune with ur driving style.

作者: jerry990530 時間: 2011-7-26 11:44
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呀我記得你啦你同小朋友一齊玩buggy. 我就係當晩其中一個儍佬

作者: rc-goods 時間: 2011-7-27 09:49
RX8

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-27 13:59
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哦,你是令我中毒的Ching. What car were you driving on that night?

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-27 16:39
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Thank you, Beebone Ching. The look of XRAY's car is very sexy - orange alu parts against carbon black. Yummi.

作者: jerry990530 時間: 2011-7-28 10:53
Haha 我用nt1 我都係同朋友玩咗1個月

作者: msfone7w 時間: 2011-7-28 11:32

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Thank you, Beebone Ching. The look of XRAY's car is very sexy - orange alu par ...

你指係T3定NT1哩？

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-28 11:53

msfone7w 發表於 2011-7-28 11:32

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你指係T3定NT1哩？

你油什麼顏色都得.

作者: hk_sdu 時間: 2011-7-28 12:21
beebone c-hing, i am consider in RX8 or MRX5, do u think the F & R belt tension adjustment of RX8 is less convenience than MRX5?
What do u think the plastic F & R gear box of RX8? Also the plastic middle pulley holder? Does it has durability problem? But it should be cheaper if it need to replace.
What do u think about the front upright of MRX5, which use ball end, instead of traditional pivol ball? Is it easy to come off with minor clash?

thanks

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-28 12:29
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beebone c-hing, i am consider in RX8 or MRX5, do u think the F & R belt tension adjustment of RX8 is ...

If you consider the front belt tensioner, I can say:

Front Belt:
-MRX-5 is easy to change the belt and adjust the belt tension. But the belt tensioner is alway lossen, it holds by 2 X 3mm screw only.
-RX-8 is same as NT-1, front belt changing is headache, belt tension is adjusted by the front axle eccentric bushing, u shd detach the front bulkhead (either side) and center sahft to change the front belt.

Rear Belt:
-MRX-5 is nightmare to change rear belt, detachs the roll bar, bulkheads......... or even detach the rear gearbox to break it down. The belt tension shd adjust time to time because more it runs, the belt longer and longer.
-RX-8 (dont type to long), easy to change and belt long lasting.

Compare with MRX-5, although both use the same STS S3M belt pitch, the RX-8 front/rear belt mileage is very high because of belt/pulley meshing is much better than MRX-5, so I wont worry about the belt changing.

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-28 17:31
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Beebone Ching, which car has a larger sweet spot, MRX5 or RX8? By larger sweet spot, I mean a resonably small incorrect setting would not result in very erractic behaviour and still drive reasonably well?

I understand that MRX5 WC edition is arriving in HK very soon (with new clutch & some option parts, etc.), would it be a good idea to get this package?

Which Nova Rossi should I go for Flash PT or PTS? What are the differences? What are 9 port and 7 port engines, Kangeroos etc.? Does these engines require frequent rebuilding such as changing bearings, etc.? Can you be kind enough to point me to posts/articles? Some say they do not require running in but most say that the run in done by Nova Rossi is crap and requires running in yourself. Is this true?

Sorry to ask a lot of newbie questions again.

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-28 17:36
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Jerry's NT1

作者: hk_sdu 時間: 2011-7-28 18:37
Thanks Beebone for the detail!

作者: msfone7w 時間: 2011-7-28 18:50

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Jerry's NT1

Any photo ?

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-28 22:42

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Beebone Ching, which car has a larger sweet spot, MRX5 or RX8? By larger sweet ...

Well, the larger sweet spot is MRX5, but don't forgot to check the front end deform time to time, this affects the flex system. That's y I don't like it.

Rx8 is maintained free on chassis, but the clutch is it's weakness.

U don't have to wait the WC MRX5, basically those upgrade parts have been launched.

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-7-29 14:11
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Beebone CHing, good advice la.

作者: BEBE3686 時間: 2011-7-30 23:11
Nt1 la

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-7-31 17:25

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Nt1 la

你做mud戀O野, post都要扼

作者: twa11 時間: 2011-7-31 18:24
等 mguen mtx5 1:10 就快到貨

作者: janson 時間: 2011-8-10 23:18
RX8 X 3...............

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-8-12 01:32
終於兩車都買了 RX8 + MRX5 WC Edition, 忍不了手

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-8-12 05:22

twa11 發表於 2011-7-31 18:24

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等 mguen mtx5 1:10 就快到貨

9唔搭8, 人地你問買NT1定RX8呀.
MTX5快到你仲買733!!!!!!
C01同966TE買左未呀?

作者: Fluke 時間: 2011-8-12 08:05

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9唔搭8, 人地你問買NT1定RX8呀.
MTX5快到你仲買733!!!!!!
C01同966TE買左未呀?

作者: Hpibbq 時間: 2011-8-12 10:57
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落左地未??

作者: sabenza 時間: 2011-8-12 12:12
RX8落左地, building MRX5

作者: twa11 時間: 2011-8-12 17:18
我都唔想買733,但很多parts, beebone ching高級會員,唔駛下下咬住唔放,次次都話我呃post

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-8-12 20:00

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我都唔想買733,但很多parts, beebone ching高級會員,唔駛下下咬住唔放,次次都話我呃post

唔想就唔買咁難為，無人搵槍指你。
我依家係話你9唔答8，唔係話你桅post，同埋唔好叫我做Ching,我無拜過師垂師弟

作者: twa11 時間: 2011-8-12 20:44
依你所講,以後咪唔好對話囉,我有我發帖,你唔好搭訕,以為自己戀哂

作者: yipyl 時間: 2011-8-12 20:50

作者: beebone 時間: 2011-8-12 21:28

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依你所講,以後咪唔好對話囉,我有我發帖,你唔好搭訕,以為自己戀哂

你講緊自己呀？！？！講完哂rx8同mrx5你就撘訕叫人買mtx5,你話你係咪9唔撘8？

作者: janson 時間: 2011-8-22 21:24
吾難揀........吾難玩..........$難攪

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