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標題: Kyosho NEO Buggy - KE25 Engine Broken [打印本頁]

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-15 14:20
標題: Kyosho NEO Buggy - KE25 Engine Broken
My connection rod of KE25 broken months a ago after an hard landing with high speed/free spinning in a crash!Managed to buy the spare parts but lack of tool to remove the connection rod from the piston (can't remove the tiny spring).

I'm now considering to replace the whole engine, preferred a pull-start .21/.28 3rd party one. Any recommendation? Is LRP Z.28 a good choice? Or, any good one from OS? Hope to get one with performance a bit better than KE25 and not too expensive.

Thanks!

作者: iouand 時間: 2012-1-15 17:29
引擎斷鸡比.可能波及其他野損壞.平引擎的話.買新好過.
唔怕大食.28偈都得.睇你手力夠唔夠.

作者: duckduck 時間: 2012-1-15 20:27
For inexperience player like me, I would suggest to buy a new one. Because there may be other part of the engine damaged but not be observed by you.

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-15 22:21
Agree, I may have scratched the cylinder by myself when 'playing around' with it....thx.

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-15 22:28
Try to try other .21/.28 engine rather than KE25 again!....but worry about any engine mount adjustment required.... Any popular engine recommendation? I'm a just a sunday driver/basher, not a racer...

作者: tonykeroro 時間: 2012-1-15 23:52
爛得幾勁

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-16 00:37
Hi wolf, which neo you driving? I just got a race spec still breaking in lei, but when I tried to pull up the engine but it didn't start rite. Have you got the same experience?
Also I checked out the diff from manual but it's not spider so not sure if you can handle the .28 without mod. Appreciate if you could share abut more on that.

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-16 09:50
Hi,

Mine is Racing Spec bought last year and learned a lot on pull up engine,
- The first few tanks would not a big unstable, need to keep adjusting the needles but not sure what kind of issue you got...(didn't start rite??).
- If you can't even start it at all....especially in winter time I suggest you to user a hair blower to warm it up at home and try start it up. I found it hard to start it at winter without warm up the engine....
- you have to prime the engine (close the exhaust exit and pull a few times, say 5 to 8, and watching some fuel/bubbles flowing the fuel tube to engine,
- prepare a few more batteries and use new one if no idea why not starting up.

lastly, if you really can't start it at all, try at home (though it's not recommended if no problem to start it the first time) with your hair blower, battery keep charging and take a break when your hands get tired....

作者: iouand 時間: 2012-1-16 20:01

TheWolf 發表於 2012-1-15 22:28

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Try to try other .21/.28 engine rather than KE25 again!....but worry about any engine mount adjustme ...

如架車有引擎座,問題不大.
個人意見有閒錢就os,冇双糧就go.
.28只係好力d,放在buggy上速度不會快好多.必要時可加多兩齒
希望幫到你

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-16 22:28
Thanks wolf
Just wonder how many tanks have been gone thought the KE？ sounds the engine wont last long...

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-16 22:41
Hi iouand i was looking for a lrp engine do u have any idea the go compare to lrp？

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-17 01:07
Over 10 tanks, the engine should be fine just I killed it at hardcrash at high speed free spinning.
The engine should last long if not that accident crashing. Any engine may die the same way in this case....no worry and enjoy your KE25.

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-17 21:31
Great hopefully i can get the KE start next run la

作者: iouand 時間: 2012-1-17 22:33

islandfire71 發表於 2012-1-16 22:41

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Hi iouand i was looking for a lrp engine do u have any idea the go compare to lrp？

go既手拉引擎.其實只係普通料.冇乜特别.但平野之中佢最多人用既,而lrp就唔知啦.我估都係代工生產.
而買乜就睇價錢啦!lrp幾錢?

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-17 23:31
Eventually, installed GO .21R engine, cheap cheap play, and get it installed no problem, also changed to 3rd party 18T Bell, a need for speed. Found that both GO .21R and 18T Bell are heavier than stock one...

, not sure it's upgrade or downgrade in performance....Anyway, have fun fixing it, and hope have time to run-in in coming holidays.

Thanks all your advise.

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-18 00:09
The lrp.28 spec3 is selling 169.9usd but the .21 is selling at 370usd...

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-18 00:17
Hey wolf
I tryed to found out the spec for your 21r but nothing about it， is it a 3 ports engine？ how much does it cost？appreciate if you can share once you broken in
Hahaa i got a cheap starter box and my engine fired up again

the pull starter make me sick last time
Also are you running the stock pipe still？i feel that pipe is so quite but not sure if its good lei？

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-18 10:48
I guess it's this one just different color in air-cooler.
http://www.go-engine.com/pdt_view.asp?sn=37&area=1&cat=8
Stock engine KE25 be good enough, I guess you play around with it to learn the tuning skill a good move. Btw, eventually, you may hit the starter box as the buggy already heavy enough. Once you run-in the engine and a bit warm up before starting, you may find pull-start an easy job.

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-18 10:58
And I'm running stock pipe, no idea how good/bad it is at all.

作者: iouand 時間: 2012-1-19 00:59
如lrp約$1400,都唔算好貴,而比起go就快d(lrp 3.89ps/go 3.0ps)
至於買邊部就自己諗下值唔值(go在淘宝最平賣四百幾人仔)
如我選就go平麻!放下狗唔使甘認真

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-19 07:41
Just sunday driver, GO .21 good enough la. Last night finished 1st tank run-in, very easy to start, 1 pull KO, and less noisy than KE25 in my impression. Not bad not bad.

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-19 17:48
Ionand
我都係普通玩玩下但你都知啦玩得呢味野就想upgrade下架嘛所以想你地d ching教下路lor
我仲想問下早幾年有隻叫sh engine好hit 但衣家都無晒聲氣既？果個8ports紅在頂好多人都話好正但衣家就無左影知5知係咪原因呀？

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-19 17:53
Wolf Ching 我見衣家kyosho stock engine with the stock pipe 都已經好靜啦喎再靜點咪好似無聲羅？
甘performace同ke比係咪再好d呢你買左幾錄呀？

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-20 00:31
I just bought it this week and just finished my 3rd tank run-in tonight. Can't compare til completing the run in.

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-20 08:17
I just finished break in tonight the stock engine works fine easy to start with my cheap starter box even I did over richen the engine
The stock engine works just fine
I haven't taken it apart but wonder if the fly wheel is 2 or 3 shoes? I expected it's running carbon clutch rite?

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-20 10:04
It's a 3 shoes but the bell is metal type.

作者: iouand 時間: 2012-1-20 10:35
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islandfire71 發表於 2012-1-19 17:48

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Ionand
我都係普通玩玩下但你都知啦玩得呢味野就想upgrade下架嘛所以想你地d ching教下路lor
我仲想問 ...

唔好話教路,大家研究下,吹吹水
SH ENGINE,巳我所知就城市代理,你可以打去問下,
個部8PORT係SH奇葩,舊時在中,台有人去賽TRUGGY的,但TRUGGY可能越來越少人玩,所以都冇人講.......而唔知點解SH ENGINE只係1/8OFFROAD可靠D,其他就........,
唉!你地有得玩真係好,我只得個買字,........
重有如可以的話,換支PIPE啦!平平換一支都好過STOCK,但會嘈好多

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-20 13:20

TheWolf 發表於 2012-1-20 10:04

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It's a 3 shoes but the bell is metal type.

You mean the clutch spring is metal?

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-20 13:37
Yes, as far as I remember it's both shoe and it's linked spring are metal. Clutch bell is metal made too. I found it less noise may be because changed from KE25 (.25) to smaller Go .21 engine la.

Hi iouand ching,
Why you can buy but can't play are? Too noise? I'm also be warned last night by management officer can't play (run-in) it around my club house as it's too noise at night......really like '放狗' in a dog-not-permitted park!

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-20 13:41
"個部8PORT係SH奇葩"
甘咪應該試下？不過我怕savage/inferno下頂5到甘大power呢有d咩提意呢？

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-20 13:53
Go Engine manual said to get 10 tanks for run-in, really necessary? I usually use 5 tanks for run-in for other cars/engines.

Does the pipe really make a big difference in performance? It's relatively simple bor, not like engine. Really worth buying a new one to replace stock?

作者: islandfire71 時間: 2012-1-20 14:11
Yes it makes big different ca
But since the stock already comes with alumium pipe don't know any nice pipe with good price? I saw SH pipe is selling around 300 looks a good choice

作者: iouand 時間: 2012-1-20 23:52
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thewolf
我冇車玩原因係我的車友全部退役冇人陪/我冇養1:1自己又懶屋企附近都冇地方玩/weekday搵水weekend要陪女......人生呀!!><
換pipe好處係引擎反應快d尾段快d.把聲好聽d.冇左絛膠喉漏油少d
壞處係引擎快死d杷聲嘈d支喉易凹d

作者: iouand 時間: 2012-1-21 00:19
islandfire71
有兴趣咪試下,但小弟就.28大食不太主張.neo rtr如果傳動系統用料和kit?{banned}的話,應該頂得住
run-in引擎主要聽把聲既變化同夾唔夾傘來決定食得未,唔同牌子run-in時間都唔同.我試過温d平價引擎5-6缸就玩得.?{banned}冇問題

作者: TheWolf 時間: 2012-1-21 01:28
Iouand, pity you!! Thanks for advice on pipe tuning but I preferred a more quiet stock pipe la. Just done my 4th tank tonite...I don't hv much time too but got some open space around my flat la.

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