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作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 11:12
標題: 頂! 一次過 Li-Po battery
頂! 一次過大出血.. 以後唔吏煩

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作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-9 11:24
嘩!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

好晒呀!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

作者: henrylaw 時間: 2006-12-9 11:25
How much each & use what 差機

作者: zoozoo 時間: 2006-12-9 11:30
锂电？

作者: crusaderlyf 時間: 2006-12-9 11:46
似乎都是3200,为什么不要点4800?

作者: 天照 時間: 2006-12-9 11:47

原帖由 henrylaw 於 2006-12-9 11:25 發表
How much each & use what 差機

要用TEAM ORION ADVANTAGE嚟差.

作者: henrylaw 時間: 2006-12-9 11:50

原帖由天照於 2006-12-9 11:47 發表

要用TEAM ORION ADVANTAGE嚟差.

好似暫時得佢可以差??

作者: 天照 時間: 2006-12-9 11:54

原帖由 henrylaw 於 2006-12-9 11:50 發表

好似暫時得佢可以差??

唔係暫時得佢可以差,有幾部都可以差鋰電,但係TEAM ORION呢部係專DESIGN為呢隻電而設,可以大A數差.....
咁理論上梗係用返佢係最好啦~!

作者: pat1111 時間: 2006-12-9 12:08

原帖由天照於 2006-12-9 11:54 發表

唔係暫時得佢可以差,有幾部都可以差鋰電,但係TEAM ORION呢部係專DESIGN為呢隻電而設,可以大A數差.....
咁理論上梗係用返佢係最好啦~!

請問用到幾大A數差 ?

作者: orange00 時間: 2006-12-9 12:23

原帖由 pat1111 於 2006-12-9 12:08 發表

請問用到幾大A數差 ?

我用1c差

作者: s 時間: 2006-12-9 12:32

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 11:12 發表
頂! 一次過大出血.. 以後唔吏煩

以後?玩10年呀?

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 12:36
我用 ICE 差, 用 2 Cell and 3.2A.. 當然係 Li-po mode

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 12:39

原帖由 orange00 於 2006-12-9 12:23 PM 發表

我用1c差

用1c差真係有排差..

作者: s 時間: 2006-12-9 12:40

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 12:36 發表
我用 ICE 差, 用 2 Cell and 3.2A.. 當然係 Li-po mode

差幾耐?

作者: pat1111 時間: 2006-12-9 12:43

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 12:36 發表
我用 ICE 差, 用 2 Cell and 3.2A.. 當然係 Li-po mode

ICE 可以咁大A差 Li-po 電,遲D要搵番隻先得.

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 12:51

原帖由 s 於 2006-12-9 12:32 PM 發表

以後?玩10年呀?

Brother 以後唔使煩意思係唔使放電呀!! .. 用NiMH最煩要放電. Li-po唔使... .我都無話以後唔使換電.

你不如話100年喇, 咪可以更突出 "以後" lee兩個字...

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 12:52

原帖由 s 於 2006-12-9 12:40 PM 發表

差幾耐?

大約 4200 5.5A 時間

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 12:54

原帖由 pat1111 於 2006-12-9 12:43 PM 發表

ICE 可以咁大A差 Li-po 電,遲D要搵番隻先得.

Input Voltage: 1-15V DC
Battery Types, # of cells: 1-10 Nickel-Cadmium cells (1.2-12.0V NiCd)
1-10 Nickel-Metal Hydride cells (1.2-12.0V NiMH)
1-4 Lithium-lon or Lithium-Polymer cells (3.6-14.8V Li-lon/Li-Po)
Battery capacity range: 100-9900mAh Fast charge current: 0.1-8.0A (1C max for Li-lon/Po)
Fast charge methods: linear, reflex, impulse and 4-step
Fast charge termination: Peak detection for NiCd and NiMH "constant current / constant voltage" for Li-lon / Li-Po optional thermal cutoff for all battery types Peak sensitivity: 0-25mV adjustable Trickle charge current: 0-500mA (n/a for Li-lon / Li-Po)
Discharge current: 0.1-10.0A adjustable
Dishcharge cut-off voltage: 0.1-1.1V per cell NiCd & NiMH 2.5-3.7V per cell Li-lon / Li-Po
Temperature cut-off range: 50-132°F (10-56°C)
Cycle count: one to ten cycles (n/a for Li-lon / Li-Po) Cycle cooloff delay: 1-30 minutes adjustable
Battery memories: 10 Display type: 8 line, 21-character LCD (168 characters max) Graphical displays:
Graphs charge and discharge voltage curves Output connectors:
banana jacks (two adapter leads included)
Motor break-in: 1.0-8.0V selectable, 1-120 minutes, 10A constant

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作者: s 時間: 2006-12-9 13:02

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 12:51 發表

Brother 以後唔使煩意思係唔使放電呀!! .. 用NiMH最煩要放電. Li-po唔使... .我都無話以後唔使換電. 你不如話100年喇, 咪可以更突出 "以後" lee兩個字...

唔使放電?死 la 我唔知呀師兄

作者: pat1111 時間: 2006-12-9 13:04

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 12:54 發表

Input Voltage: 1-15V DC
Battery Types, # of cells: 1-10 Nickel-Cadmium cells (1.2-12.0V NiCd)
1-10 Nickel-Metal Hydride cells (1.2-12.0V NiMH)
1-4 Lithium-lon or Lithium-Polymer cells (3.6- ...

Thanks

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 13:06

原帖由 s 於 2006-12-9 01:02 PM 發表

唔使放電?死 la 我唔知呀師兄

宜家你咪知 law

作者: s 時間: 2006-12-9 13:13

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 13:06 發表

宜家你咪知 law

我 d fd 耐唔耐放

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 13:18

原帖由 s 於 2006-12-9 01:13 PM 發表

我 d fd 耐唔耐放

Balance charge 重要過放電.. 差大約10次就做一 balance. 可以keep 住 performance. 基本上每次用 balance charge 最好但時間長.

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作者: s 時間: 2006-12-9 13:37

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 13:18 發表

Balance charge 重要過放電.. 差大約10次就做一 balance. 可以keep 住 performance. 基本上每次用 balance charge 最好但時間長.

同match有咩分別?

作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-9 16:38
係咪已經焊好左電線? 蕉插?

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 19:13

原帖由 s 於 2006-12-9 01:37 PM 發表

同match有咩分別?

電頭同電尾一樣爆, 一係爆一係無電.. Match 電差頭果十次左有就爆頭爆尾, 之後慢慢 drop performance. Li-po 都曾 drop performance 但係慢過 NiMH. Li-po 不用放電及可以姦電, NiMh 要放電及休息.. 此乃本人之經驗及用後結果, 不代表其他人.. 唔好 challenge 我..

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 19:15

原帖由 i-Drift 於 2006-12-9 04:38 PM 發表
係咪已經焊好左電線? 蕉插?

已經蕉 Hole

作者: cHRisTiAN 時間: 2006-12-9 19:17

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 13:18 發表

Balance charge 重要過放電.. 差大約10次就做一 balance. 可以keep 住 performance. 基本上每次用 balance charge 最好但時間長.

Balance charge要差幾耐?
普通差法又要幾耐?
THANKS

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 19:33

原帖由 cHRisTiAN 於 2006-12-9 07:17 PM 發表

Balance charge要差幾耐?
普通差法又要幾耐?
THANKS

Balance charge 比普通差多 3/1 時間, 因為個 balancer 會互相等兩舊電的 voltage 一樣, 如一舊高一舊低 balancer 會差低果舊先, 如果一樣就一同差.. 普通差大約差 4200 用 5.5A. 45min

作者: rcplayer 時間: 2006-12-9 19:34

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 11:12 發表
頂! 一次過大出血.. 以後唔吏煩

is it fit on m03???

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作者: zoozoo 時間: 2006-12-9 20:35
乜宜家D充电器有大A数GE锂电平衡充啦？我家宜仲用紧国产果D锂电平衡充电器，真系充得好慢。。。一排4200要充三个钟

作者: 清清 時間: 2006-12-9 20:58
呢d係真正毒品"Kokam"

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-9 22:23

原帖由 zoozoo 於 2006-12-9 08:35 PM 發表
乜宜家D充电器有大A数GE锂电平衡充啦？我家宜仲用紧国产果D锂电平衡充电器，真系充得好慢。。。一排4200要充三个钟

外置的, 自巳做線.. Up to 6A charge current.

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作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-9 23:37

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 19:15 發表

已經蕉 Hole

可以 show 個近鏡睇下個蕉 Hole 嗎?

作者: ppl 時間: 2006-12-10 00:20
有冇兄弟知道用much more部差機點差Li-Po電,個合有寫可以差,thx

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-10 00:47

原帖由 ppl 於 2006-12-10 00:20 發表
有冇兄弟知道用much more部差機點差Li-Po電,個合有寫可以差,thx

Select 4.
LI-ION CHG-->CHG-->CELL-->A-->

作者: ppl 時間: 2006-12-10 00:55

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-10 00:47 發表

Select 4.
LI-ION CHG-->CHG-->CELL-->A-->

哈,thx 原來我之前off左,而家想買舊Li-Po電試下

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-10 00:58

原帖由 ppl 於 2006-12-10 00:55 發表

哈,thx 原來我之前off左,而家想買舊Li-Po電試下

Much more 最多set得 1A charge....

作者: ppl 時間: 2006-12-10 01:08

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-10 00:58 發表

Much more 最多set得 1A charge....

咁請問樓上有師兄講1c姐係幾多,1a係咪差好奈???3200mah要差大約幾奈??

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-10 01:17

原帖由 ppl 於 2006-12-10 01:08 發表

咁請問樓上有師兄講1c姐係幾多,1a係咪差好奈???3200mah要差大約幾奈??

charge rate 1C of Kokam 3200mAh 約3.2A , Kokam 4800mAh 約4.8A
Team Orion recommend the maximum charge rate is 1C

http://cms.teamorion.com/orion/instructions/ori_fin_li_inst.pdf

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作者: ppl 時間: 2006-12-10 01:26

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-10 01:17 發表

charge rate 1C of Kokam 3200mAh 約3.2A , Kokam 4800mAh 約4.8A
Team Orion recommend the maximum charge rate is 1C

http://cms.teamorion.com/orion/instructions/ori_fin_li_inst.pdf

thx,咁我用much more差3200mah咪要差好奈,成4~5個鐘

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-10 01:30

原帖由 ppl 於 2006-12-10 01:26 發表

thx,咁我用much more差3200mah咪要差好奈,成4~5個鐘

Muchmore佢可能deisgn比charge接收電及發射電用....
換部 ICE 或者 Bantam e-station

作者: ppl 時間: 2006-12-10 01:43

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-10 01:30 發表

Muchmore佢可能deisgn比charge接收電及發射電用....
換部 ICE 或者 Bantam e-station

唔該曬,係時候考慮下啦

作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-10 10:35

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-10 01:30 發表

Muchmore佢可能deisgn比charge接收電及發射電用....
換部 ICE 或者 Bantam e-station

Team Orion Advantage 又如何?

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-10 11:01

原帖由 i-Drift 於 2006-12-10 10:35 發表

Team Orion Advantage 又如何?

The Team Orion Carbon fiber Advantage is great for Kokam Li-Po battery.(it only can charge up to 2 cells Li-Po)

Team Orion also got an Advantage Advanced Flight Charger(Avionics), it can charge Li-Io or Li-Po 1-5 cells, but the charge current (0.1A-5.0A) is not good enough for RC car Ni-MH battery.

作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-10 12:56

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-10 11:01 發表

The Team Orion Carbon fiber Advantage is great for Kokam Li-Po battery.(it only can charge up to 2 cells Li-Po)

Team Orion also got an Advantage Advanced Flight Charger(Avionics), it can ch ...

I see. Then ICE Charger can charge up to how many cells Li-Po?

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-10 13:12

原帖由 i-Drift 於 2006-12-10 12:56 發表

I see. Then ICE Charger can charge up to how many cells Li-Po?

1-4 Li-Po cells
http://www.duratrax.com/caraccys/dtxp4170.html

作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-10 19:07
Thx.

In your opinion, Duratrax ICE and Team Orion Advantage, which one is better?

I will soon buy some Team Orion either 3200 or 4800 Li-Po. Probably 4800 Li-Po.

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-10 20:07
I used them ...

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作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-10 20:48
Wow! So many Li-Pos!

Kawada, which charger are you using?

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-10 20:58

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-10 20:07 發表
Here is my Lipo s .. on T2 . ..

Wa...Li-Po collection

作者: RC 時間: 2006-12-10 22:47

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-9 12:54 發表

Input Voltage: 1-15V DC
Battery Types, # of cells: 1-10 Nickel-Cadmium cells (1.2-12.0V NiCd)
1-10 Nickel-Metal Hydride cells (1.2-12.0V NiMH)
1-4 Lithium-lon or Lithium-Polymer cells (3.6- ...

only 1C for lipo charge and use 0-500mA

need to wait a long time..............

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-10 23:54
On my machines

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作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-11 00:23
係寒冬之中.......上到嚟工房電車區行一轉.......

都感到一陣強烈O既陽光不停咁射埋嚟.......實在就嚟晒到變黑人......

作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-11 00:48
Kawada, since you have both charger, which one do you think is better for Li-Po?

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 01:08

原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 00:23 發表
係寒冬之中.......上到嚟工房電車區行一轉.......

都感到一陣強烈O既陽光不停咁射埋嚟.......實在就嚟晒到變黑人......

Wah .. Br Boss... u wanna shelter it with some clouds ??

作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-11 01:09

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 01:08 發表

Wah .. Br Boss... u wanna shelter it with some clouds ??

嗯......我打算入返O的貨嚟鬥燦!

遲下啦.....

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 01:14

原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 01:09 發表

嗯......我打算入返O的貨嚟鬥燦!

遲下啦.....

Just wanna post and support my brother .. means nothing to " sunshine " anything but sharing .. if u think we do any offence of any kind .. sorry .. we can fade out immediately ..

作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-11 01:19

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 01:14 發表

Just wanna post and support my brother .. means nothing to " sunshine " anything but sharing .. if u think we do any offence of any kind .. sorry .. we can fade out immediately ..

喂喂喂!KAWADA兄講下笑開心下咋~!

NO NEGATIVE MEANING O架~!

我都唔知幾想你得閒就貼下你O的正O野出嚟引下我地!
咁我地先有動力要換O野嗎~!

真係冇錢買睇下都開心~!

未有錢買就搞到心郁郁!~

你貼多O的正O野出嚟就真呀!快O的貼多O的!

作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-11 01:20
Which of these two chargers is better for Li-Po?

ICE can only charge at 1C max.

How about Team Orion one?

作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-11 01:35

原帖由 i-Drift 於 2006-12-11 01:20 發表
Which of these two chargers is better for Li-Po?

ICE can only charge at 1C max.

How about Team Orion one?

理論上應該係一樣.

作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-11 01:48
宜家O的 TEAM ORION LI-PO做到幾錢一排?仲係要外國訂?

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 01:53

原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 01:48 發表
宜家O的 TEAM ORION LI-PO做到幾錢一排?仲係要外國訂?

No need .. available in KWS already .. but deemed to be out of stock recently .. cost u around 6XX depends on ur relationship

作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-11 02:01

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 01:53 發表

No need .. available in KWS already .. but deemed to be out of stock recently .. cost u around 6XX depends on ur relationship

600蚊到......如果有MATCH電水準,仲襟用過佢......又輕......其實真係抵.....
因為我發覺宜家O的NI-MH電好唔襟!唔係MATCH都可以好快打柴!仲要好難焊!唔MATCH又唔爆,MATCH又快玩完.....
二百蚊一排.....鬥車要用六七排......都千四.....半年玩完.....又要買.....又要追容量.....
可能買三排到四排LI PO仲好!

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 02:07

原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 02:01 發表

600蚊到......如果有MATCH電水準,仲襟用過佢......又輕......其實真係抵.....
因為我發覺宜家O的NI-MH電好唔襟!唔係MATCH都可以好快打柴!仲要好難焊!唔MATCH又唔爆,MATCH又快玩完.....
二百蚊一排.....鬥車 ...

Thz our point .. as a casual & " H " driver like me .. we can simply charged them all up days b4 our RC fun .. and hassle free with any discharging stuffs .. But as for some pros it wont do any interest with them since its illegal for any club races .. and the gained weight got some balance concerns needa taken care of..

For us ?? damn care, we only enjoy the RC fun..

作者: 馮馮ymc 時間: 2006-12-11 02:13

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 02:07 發表

Thz our point .. as a casual & " H " driver like me .. we can simply charged them all up days b4 our RC fun .. and hassle free with any discharging stuffs .. But as for some pros it ...

yes!!!enjoy the RC fun.........

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-11 03:16

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 02:07 AM 發表

Thz our point .. as a casual & " H " driver like me .. we can simply charged them all up days b4 our RC fun .. and hassle free with any discharging stuffs .. But as for some pros it ...

Yes, what a good "damn Care"... only enjoy RC fun. damn care money, damn care the rule..

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-11 03:18

原帖由 i-Drift 於 2006-12-11 01:20 AM 發表
Which of these two chargers is better for Li-Po?

ICE can only charge at 1C max.

How about Team Orion one?

Brother, 1C charge is enough la... Not 1A charge.. beware

作者: RC 時間: 2006-12-11 08:19
Orion charger can charge at 1C to 3C, if charge orion4800Lipo, u can set it on 1C 4A, about 1 and half hour be full charge. And remember don't and never discharge the LiPo battery.......

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 11:42

原帖由 RC 於 2006-12-11 08:19 發表
Orion charger can charge at 1C to 3C, if charge orion4800Lipo, u can set it on 1C 4A, about 1 and half hour be full charge. And remember don't and never discharge the LiPo battery.......

We had owned and run lipos for mths and its pretty safe and a great tool for EP leisures ...

Regarding to the charging procedures, there are tons of theories and knowledge spread widely around the gobal webs .. but I used the following settings and deemed get a great balance on both safety and run time prospectives..

1. Lipo 4800  : -

Charging current 4.8A
Charging time;  depends on the ultilized capacity .. if u drain the battery till Voltage cut ( LRP Competition - Lipo Auto; Mamba 6.4V ) it required to peak off at approx 60 mins
Run Time approx 10mins + & depends on the gear ratio, power combo etc
Cells selective : - Not required to do anything since ICE is auto detected upto 4 cells and Advantage can ONLY charge 2 cells Lipos

2. Lipo 3200

Charging current 3.2A
Charging time;  depends on the ultilized capacity .. if u drain the battery till Voltage cut ( LRP Competition - Lipo Auto; Mamba 6.4V ) it required to peak off at approx 45 mins
Run Time approx 7mins & depends on the gear ratio, power combo etc
Cells selective : - Not required to do anything since ICE is auto detected upto 4 cells and Advantage can ONLY charge 2 cells Lipos

ps... As per all Lipos character, it will milfunction and dead if either cell voltage had dropped below its defaulted voltage ( 6 to 6.4V on both 4800 and 3200 ) but the cons its .. u can charge them as frequent as u can and no discharge or matching processes required..

Regarding to the balancing procedures.. its not a must progress but u may say is NICE TO HAVE .... my opinion is, dont use what is uncertain, otherwise u will suffer from damages or even unexpected accident... catch some user advises from respective official webs .. Kokam's balancing doesnt required complicated device to do the job .. simply get urself a small male plug ( from Air rifle stores ) .. and follow through the followings ( but it works with my ICE only, since Orion is defaulted as 2 Cells charging )

1. Set ur Lipo charger to 1 cell, 3.7 volts & 4.8A charging current , 4800 mah for 4800 Kokam & also 1 Cell, 3.7V but 3.2A charging current, 3200 mah for 3200 Kokam
2. Connect the negative charge lead to the negative battery lead/socket and the positive charger lead to the balancing port, and charge
3. Once peaked off, you then will hook the positive charger lead to the positive battery lead/socket and the negative charger lead to the balancing port, and charge

Its balanced after the said processes, since 4800 got 2 pairs of cells and are in parallel. By the nature of their parallel connection they will ALWAYS stay balanced with each other. Current will flow from the high cell to the low cell so they are constantly in a state of equilibrium. You only have to balance the parallel pairs not the individual cells  .. 3200 is rather simple, its a 2 cells configuration ..

The above simple tricks is learnt from a foreign tech websites and works perfectly fine on me .. dont ask me y .. since i am not an expert of any kind,  adopt it or not, is a matter of your own call and proven to be " RISK FREE "

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: 登錄/註冊後可看大圖

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-11 11:54
標題: 回復 #70 kawada 的帖子
Great share! thanks, special on the 4800 battery balancing procedures...

作者: AMAT 時間: 2006-12-11 12:06
相信好快就可以比賽都用得LIPO~!

到時人人入貨~!正!

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-11 12:15

原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 12:06 發表
相信好快就可以比賽都用得LIPO~!

到時人人入貨~!正!

到時架架車好多一舊舊，加鉛加到1500g

作者: s 時間: 2006-12-11 12:38

原帖由 skywork 於 2006-12-11 12:20 發表

宜家日本玩4cell,歐洲玩5cell
完全冇統一標準,好難流行喎!

hk統一玩3cell

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 13:11
Guys.. No matter how many cells .. there still isnt a compromised standard.. as long as we r comfortable and supported by available machines without major mod required, that will be fine ..

Regarding to the machine balancing issue .. i think Br Sunli is kidding, i had scaled almost all type of batteries of coz these bricks .. if u really add 1500g on either side . ur machine will surely got another balancing problem lu ...

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-11 13:24

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 13:11 發表
Guys.. No matter how many cells .. there still isnt a compromised standard.. as long as we r comfortable and supported by available machines without major mod required, that will be fine ..

Re ...

I mean the standard car weight for the race entry rules (1500 grams minimum)

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 13:26

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-11 13:24 發表

I mean the standard car weight for the race entry rules (1500 grams minimum)

ic.. but not applying 1500gram extra lead .. sor dus kar lair .. dont scare me lar ..

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-11 13:31

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 13:26 發表

ic.. but not applying 1500gram extra lead .. sor dus kar lair .. dont scare me lar ..

I didn't said applying 1500gram extra lead...

I said"到時架架車好多一舊舊，加鉛加到1500g

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 13:36

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-11 13:31 發表

I didn't said applying 1500gram extra lead...
I said"到時洛到1500g"

Got that Buddy

apologize for my misunderstanding ..

作者: SunLi 時間: 2006-12-11 13:43

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 13:36 發表

Got that Buddy apologize for my misunderstanding ..

Play with you next time!
Do you play RC in Western?

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-11 13:51

原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-11 13:43 發表

Play with you next time!
Do you play RC in Western?

sure .. & welcome every weekend .. letz share the fun and joy of RC ...

作者: i-Drift 時間: 2006-12-11 20:23
Kawada, thanks for the lengthy detail information.

I think I will go for Team Orion, I like the carbon graphite case

and its 4800 Li-Po this weekend.

Oh, according to your post, Team Orion Advantage cannot do balancing?

作者: 1982zxl 時間: 2006-12-12 23:18

原帖由 s 於 2006-12-11 12:38 發表

hk統一玩3cell

3cell lipo 11.1V

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-13 13:23

原帖由 1982zxl 於 2006-12-12 11:18 PM 發表

3cell lipo 11.1V

what type of 1/10 ESC can support 11.1v lipo??

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-13 13:25

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-13 13:23 發表

what type of 1/10 ESC can support 11.1v lipo??

Mamba .. kakakakakkakaak ..

http://www.castlecreations.com/products/mamba_max.html

Cells

6-12 NiCad/NiMH
2-3s LiPo

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-13 13:36

原帖由 RC 於 2006-12-11 08:19 AM 發表
Orion charger can charge at 1C to 3C, if charge orion4800Lipo, u can set it on 1C 4A, about 1 and half hour be full charge. And remember don't and never discharge the LiPo battery.......

3C is 3 time of Amp input. Too risking.. For 4800 lipo, 1C charge = 4.8A, 2C charge = 9.6A, 3C = 14.4A... Yes, charging time will be very short, but the life of Lipo also short... Becarefull, not all lipo can support over 1C charging, otherwise the possibility of explode increse.....

In my opinion 1C is max for now a day lipo,

[ 本帖最後由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-13 13:39 編輯 ]

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-13 13:38

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-13 01:25 PM 發表

Mamba .. kakakakakkakaak ..

http://www.castlecreations.com/products/mamba_max.html

Cells6-12 NiCad/NiMH
2-3s LiPo

Oh! SNAKE again... haha. We got to play all the time

作者: kawada 時間: 2006-12-13 13:46

原帖由 skyrobber 於 2006-12-13 13:36 發表

3C is 3 time of Amp input. Too risking.. For 4800 lipo, 1C charge = 4.8A, 2C charge = 9.6A, 3C = 14.4A... Yes, charging time will be very short, but the life of Lipo also short... Becarefull, n ...

I 2nd that.. just for ur easy reference .. damn care how many Cs .. just need to get one critical point in mind .. if ur lipo is 3200mah on 2S configuration .. then use 3.2A max with 2 cells mode to charge it .. if its 4800 mah then use 4.8A max

Forgotten to mark back a short note tim

.. This is only a personal advise from a H driver.. pls share ur expert comment if any...

[ 本帖最後由 kawada 於 2006-12-13 13:58 編輯 ]

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2006-12-13 23:36

原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-13 01:46 PM 發表

I 2nd that.. just for ur easy reference .. damn care how many Cs .. just need to get one critical point in mind .. if ur lipo is 3200mah on 2S configuration .. then use 3.2A max with 2 cells mo ...

Just told 1C is good enough to charge the lipo, because some guys concern 2C and 3C charger.

作者: GigaRacer 時間: 2007-1-10 07:05
標題: 回復 #90 skyrobber 的帖子
Hello Brother Skyrobber,

Any update on the three 3200 Team Orion Lipo that you bought? Any good? Longer run time? I want to buy, too. Getting sick with my dead NiMH batteries.

作者: buggy 時間: 2007-1-10 12:59
I bought the orion 3200 lipo too....after 1st run, the 2 cells inside have different voltage. 1 is 3.22V and the other is 3.33....I think i better buy a balancer for it, right? Orion advantage is not really that good it does not have balancing functioni.....

作者: Colin 時間: 2007-1-10 13:09
有無師兄用依部e-station BC-5 黎差鋰電呀,掂唔掂

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2007-1-10 19:19

原帖由 GigaRacer 於 2007-1-10 07:05 AM 發表
Hello Brother Skyrobber,

Any update on the three 3200 Team Orion Lipo that you bought? Any good? Longer run time? I want to buy, too. Getting sick with my dead NiMH batteries.

3200 Lipo is good... The feels is around IB4200 WC. Running time is bit longer then that, in my tested result. 1.25 time of IB4200WC. Quite good. The running time is depends on your setting and ESC, I use Snake 7700.

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2007-1-10 19:22

原帖由 buggy 於 2007-1-10 12:59 PM 發表
I bought the orion 3200 lipo too....after 1st run, the 2 cells inside have different voltage. 1 is 3.22V and the other is 3.33....I think i better buy a balancer for it, right? Orion advantage is n ...

You can charge invidually, use the middle injet to charge cell 1 and cell 2, will balance after that.. Need balance for few run or capaicity amp are less than around 3100.

作者: skyrobber 時間: 2007-1-10 19:25

原帖由 Colin 於 2007-1-10 01:09 PM 發表
有無師兄用依部e-station BC-5 黎差鋰電呀,掂唔掂

e-station BC-5 是專差鋰電當然掂. 但 charge 4200 就欠火力,因得 5A max..

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