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作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-4 22:00
標題: EP Buggy 的選擇
<P>由於將有新 buggy 場, 所以小弟找尋到一些 EP Buggy 給大家參考, 如果大家有其他資料, 歡迎提供 </P>
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<P><FONT size=2><STRONG>EP 4WD :</STRONG></FONT><FONT color=pink> </FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=pink>Kyosho --&gt; Lazer <A href="http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/products/rc/detail.html?product_id=100271" target=_blank>http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/produc ... l?product_id=100271</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=wheat>HPI --&gt; D4 <A href="http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/hotbodies/cylone_d4/index.html" target=_blank>http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/conte ... ylone_d4/index.htmltml</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=purple>Tamiya --&gt; TRF501x </FONT><A href="http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/49401trf501x/index.htm" target=_blank>http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/49401trf501x/index.htm</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=red>Tamiya --&gt; DF-03 </FONT><A href="http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/58370dark_impact/index.htm" target=_blank>http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/58370dark_impact/index.htm</A> </P>
<P><FONT color=magenta>Team Losi --&gt; XXX-4 <A href="http://www.teamlosi.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA0015" target=_blank>http://www.teamlosi.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA0015</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=lime>Yokomo --&gt; MR-4 BX <A href="http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/0703/bxf.pdf" target=_blank>http://www.teamyokomo.com/japan/0703/bxf.pdf</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=cyan>Xtreme --&gt; Predatoro X11 <A href="http://www.ttechracing.com/x11/" target=_blank>http://www.ttechracing.com/x11/</A></FONT> </P>
<P>JConcepts BJ4 World's edition kit  -->  http://www.jconcepts.net/shop/pr ... /21/products_id/114</P>
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<p> JConcepts BJ4 -->  http://www.jconcepts.net/shop/pr ... h/22/products_id/28</p>
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<P><STRONG><FONT size=2>EP 2WD :</FONT></STRONG> </P>
<P><FONT color=sandybrown>Kyosho --&gt; Ultiam RB5 <A href="http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/products/rc/detail.html?product_id=101716" target=_blank>http://www.kyosho.com/jpn/produc ... l?product_id=101716</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=purple>Team Associated --&gt; RC-10B4 <A href="http://www.teamassociated.com/ae/b4/kitb4.htm" target=_blank>http://www.teamassociated.com/ae/b4/kitb4.htm</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT color=green>Team Losi --&gt; XXX-CR <A href="http://www.teamlosi.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA0032" target=_blank>http://www.teamlosi.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSA0032</A></FONT></P>

[ 本帖最後由 RX78amuroray 於 2007-5-29 03:35 編輯 ]
作者: lichungkiu    時間: 2007-5-4 22:07
請問有冇d 2wd可介紹呵
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-4 22:21
Team Losi
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-4 22:27
Kyosho Laser ZX-5
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-5-4 22:43
Kyosho -- > ultima RB5 ? RB 有咩意思架 ?
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-4 22:48
Rear drive Buggy?
作者: 清清    時間: 2007-5-4 22:51
Kyosho Laser ZX-5是超值之選,相比其他品牌車價可以買他兩輛了
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-4 23:00
小弟正有此意,多謝大大分享~
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-4 23:02
想知個場係咪70X60尺!?咁即係幾大到???
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-4 23:02
不過都要睇吓邊架多件
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-4 23:05
Team Losi XXX-CR
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-4 23:05
在下想睇TRF501X果個睇唔到.........
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-5-4 23:05
Kyosho Laser ZX-5 ---> how much in KWS ?
作者: rcplayer    時間: 2007-5-4 23:09
原帖由 清清 於 2007-5-4 22:51 發表
Kyosho Laser ZX-5是超值之選,相比其他品牌車價可以買他兩輛了

how much zx-5???
作者: 清清    時間: 2007-5-4 23:09
原帖由 rk2 於 2007-5-4 23:05 發表
Kyosho Laser ZX-5 ---> how much in KWS ?

預佢約$2100,但唔係間間有貨!
作者: rcplayer    時間: 2007-5-4 23:11
原帖由 清清 於 2007-5-4 23:09 發表

預佢約$2100,但唔係間間有貨!

how about rc-10b4???
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-4 23:11
XXX-4 都係差唔多價錢
作者: raymen    時間: 2007-5-4 23:14
標題: TRF-501X
LOOK....Great

I think 1/10 Buggy is more HOT than Touring later...

Its best selection to play in HK area, lack of flat playground !!!!

[ 本帖最後由 raymen 於 2007-5-5 00:09 編輯 ]
作者: mikewu    時間: 2007-5-5 01:01
Anyone has photos for the HB buggy??
作者: minimini    時間: 2007-5-5 01:24
as far as I know......the current market price of the followings are......Lazer ZX5 = $2100, Yokomo BX = $3800, Tamiya 501X = $3150, HPI D4 = ???, Losi XXX4 = ???,
Predator = ???
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-5 01:26
原帖由 minimini 於 5/5/2007 01:24 AM 發表
as far as I know......the current market price of the followings are......Lazer ZX5 = $2100, Yokomo BX = $3800, Tamiya 501X = $3150, HPI D4 = ???, Losi XXX4 = ???,
Predator = ???

嘩.....BX要成$3800咁貴.........
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 01:28
hot bodies D4
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 01:29
又要考慮 SD or BD?
作者: minimini    時間: 2007-5-5 01:29
原帖由 ALEXANDER 於 2007-5-5 01:26 發表

嘩.....BX要成$3800咁貴.........


之前 Waigo 賣緊呢個價 (2006" 版)........不過斷咗貨好耐........至於新款 2007" 版個價就仲未知........
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-5 01:31
原帖由 RX78amuroray 於 5/5/2007 01:29 AM 發表
又要考慮 SD or BD?

要考慮自己鐘意邊個殼
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-5 01:34
原帖由 minimini 於 5/5/2007 01:29 AM 發表


之前 Waigo 賣緊呢個價 (2006" 版)........不過斷咗貨好耐........至於新款 2007" 版個價就仲未知........

咁貴梗係唔考慮啦,買多少少SPARE PARTS就$4XXX
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 01:37
Kyosho RB5
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 01:39
Team Associated RC10B4RS


                               
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作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-5 02:52
標題: 回復 #20 minimini 的帖子
HPI D4 = $2,700.- / Losi XXX4 = $2,100.-
作者: rcplayer    時間: 2007-5-5 07:38
原帖由 RX78amuroray 於 2007-5-5 01:39 發表
Team Associated RC10B4RS


                               
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how much??
作者: BTruggy    時間: 2007-5-5 10:34
看來京商是個比較實惠之選
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-5-5 10:43
原帖由 BTruggy 於 2007-5-5 10:34 發表
看來京商是個比較實惠之選


I think it is alway the case !
作者: BTruggy    時間: 2007-5-5 10:48
原帖由 rk2 於 2007-5-5 10:43 發表


I think it is alway the case !



是嗎? 真失禮,  因一向都無特別留意京商產品呀,

師兄有冇D 心得可以分享一下嗎?
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-5-5 12:02
原帖由 BTruggy 於 2007-5-5 10:48 發表



是嗎? 真失禮,  因一向都無特別留意京商產品呀,

師兄有冇D 心得可以分享一下嗎?


我的心得是 80 ~ 90 年代的 , 最近10 年都無玩 buggy 了, 現只間中玩 1/10 ep, gp touring.
i am old cake
作者: lespaul    時間: 2007-5-5 13:58
Actually I planning to buy DF03 avante, but after reading this thread, I may change my mind.....   Is DF03 as good as the others?  
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 14:03
DF-03 是平價版的 TRF-501X, 零件應該 TRF-501X 多啲

[ 本帖最後由 RX78amuroray 於 2007-5-5 14:08 編輯 ]
作者: lespaul    時間: 2007-5-5 14:06
Nice buggies not cheap!!!  
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 14:08
Dark Impact
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 14:10
TRF-501X
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-5 16:57
呢架都唔錯
作者: binary    時間: 2007-5-5 18:42
原帖由 RX78amuroray 於 2007-5-5 16:57 發表
呢架都唔錯


呢架直頭正o野啦!  
作者: lespaul    時間: 2007-5-5 18:57
原帖由 RX78amuroray 於 2007-5-5 16:57 發表
呢架都唔錯



If hotshot and DF03, which one runs better!!
作者: RICHOME2    時間: 2007-5-5 20:07
DF-03
作者: minimini    時間: 2007-5-5 23:30
原帖由 lespaul 於 2007-5-5 18:57 發表



If hotshot and DF03, which one runs better!!


兩部係唔同年代嘅 design 喎.......
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-6 00:27
原帖由 lespaul 於 5/5/2007 06:57 PM 發表



If hotshot and DF03, which one runs better!!

haha......
作者: eason    時間: 2007-5-6 00:37
原帖由 lespaul 於 2007-5-5 18:57 發表



If hotshot and DF03, which one runs better!!


this question is just the same as comparing the performance of TA01 & TRF 415MSXX .........
作者: lespaul    時間: 2007-5-6 01:52
That means for daily runner, I should pick DF03!!  But this hotshot still has a lot of fans to fulfill their teenage dream!!!
作者: wsh92    時間: 2007-5-6 16:42
how much is a D4?is that enough parts?
作者: buggy    時間: 2007-5-6 22:15
501 looks the best....but i like the D4 shaft driven, carbon fibre setting....
作者: hkBuggyboy    時間: 2007-5-7 17:13
Any good Taiwan EP Buggy also? Like C1XR
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-5-8 11:11
aNY PHOTO OF C1XR ??
作者: hkBuggyboy    時間: 2007-5-8 17:01
Sorry the C1XR is GP..
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-8 21:23
原帖由 wsh92 於 2007-5-6 16:42 發表
how much is a D4?is that enough parts?



D4  -->  $28XX    ,                    
501X  -->  $32XX
作者: bb149    時間: 2007-5-9 01:41
小弟應為京商車價係平但好多係膠料,買吓 買吓 都
作者: buggy    時間: 2007-5-9 02:50
我架Lazer zx5 切左放向到,條油壓都漏油呀!
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-9 03:10
原帖由 buggy 於 2007-5-9 02:50 發表
我架Lazer zx5 切左放向到,條油壓都漏油呀!


玩平路 buggy, 已前好多人玩
作者: ALEXANDER    時間: 2007-5-9 08:36
原帖由 bb149 於 9/5/2007 01:41 AM 發表
小弟應為京商車價係平但好多係膠料,買吓 買吓 都

見人見智啦,買得佢就唔會點改啦,嫌佢膠做乜要買佢!?
作者: joho    時間: 2007-5-9 21:21
For Team Losi, depends on the track condition but in most cases, the XX-4WE is a much better choice then the XXX-4, it just handle rough better then the XXX-4.
Regarding the ZX-5, with the batteries on one side of the car, the balance of the chassis are not ideal, all the later generation EP buggy are using saddle pack for this particular reason. However, the Kyosho are a very good beginner "competition level" 4WD buggy.
HPI D4 is a nearly identical copy of the Jconcept BJ4, which is the current world champion.
Just my 2 cents, if you like American style (Graphite Tub Chassis), go for the Losi XX-4WE. If you prefer the Japanese product, then the D4 and 501X are all good to try.
One last word, had been waiting for the EP buggy to come back into fashion for a long long time, now that you guys have a indoor track, go and enjoy it! 100% guarantee more fun then touring cars..
作者: barrypops    時間: 2007-5-10 00:45
原帖由 joho 於 2007-5-9 21:21 發表
For Team Losi, depends on the track condition but in most cases, the XX-4WE is a much better choice then the XXX-4, it just handle rough better then the XXX-4.
Regarding the ZX-5, with the batteri ...


Yeah ! Agreeeeeeeee!!!!!!100% guarantee more fun than touring cars
作者: bb149    時間: 2007-5-10 01:22
原帖由 ALEXANDER 於 2007-5-9 08:36 發表

見人見智啦,買得佢就唔會點改啦,嫌佢膠做乜要買佢!?

玩車好少會唔改
作者: minimini    時間: 2007-5-10 01:25
原帖由 ALEXANDER 於 2007-5-9 08:36 發表

見人見智啦,買得佢就唔會點改啦,嫌佢膠做乜要買佢!?


玩吓玩吓......就會不甘於原裝車嘅表現........心思思又會買 option 嚟改o架嘞........
作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-10 03:29
I wanted to buy a new EP Buggy, TRF 501 or HB B4 which one is the best choices?
作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-10 03:31
Sorry! TRF 501 or HPI D4
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-10 03:43
HPI D4
作者: LeoChan    時間: 2007-5-10 04:33
ZX-5 or D4
ZX-5 lower price !
作者: ktse2020    時間: 2007-5-10 10:01
Seems like the new TRC indoor buggy track is using packed clay? That means the cars wouldn't get dirty and dusty? I used to play 1/8 buggy in FSY but I hated all the clean up afterwards so I gave up in the end...

New indoor buggy track seems very exciting! I think I'll get 501X with Novak Brushless
作者: speedster    時間: 2007-5-10 13:30

                               
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predator...how to get this in hk? too beautiful, can be a collector item...don't mind if it is a x10 of even xrs
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-10 13:33
http://www.ttechracing.com/x11/images.html
作者: bigben    時間: 2007-5-10 14:14
speedstar.... what is that monster !! so cool!!!
作者: bigben    時間: 2007-5-10 14:16
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作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-10 14:23
If I use brushless motor for buggy, Novak or LRP which one is bester and how many R or T is suitable for EP buggy?
作者: speedster    時間: 2007-5-10 15:16
標題: 回復 #69 bigben 的帖子
As big brother RX78 in #68 said, you can discover more about this machine in its official website: http://www.ttechracing.com/ , or try to type 'Predator X10' in Google to search more : )

I only know very few about this very low CG offroad machine too, just know it's called Predator, X10 is the top model and Xrs is a more economic package with more plastic parts, and also the 'next generation' top model X11 is gonna release soon too.
作者: rockdragon    時間: 2007-5-10 16:00
Late last year during the first release introduction price, I managed to get one of the XRS.





                               
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作者: lespaul    時間: 2007-5-10 16:52
原帖由 speedster 於 2007-5-10 15:16 發表
As big brother RX78 in #68 said, you can discover more about this machine in its official website: http://www.ttechracing.com/ , or try to type 'Predator X10' in Google to search more : )

I only ...



Is it available in HK?  Thanks, but it maybe sky price!!
作者: binary    時間: 2007-5-10 16:53
原帖由 lespaul 於 2007-5-10 16:52 發表



Is it available in HK?  Thanks, but it maybe sky price!!


"Sky price" is one thing, getting spare parts is another.  
作者: joho    時間: 2007-5-10 17:14
For brushless motor, if you are playing 4WD, the best will be a 5.5 motor. And for 2WD, 7.5 turn will be the best. This is exactly what I am ausing to race in Thailand and it prove to be not just fast enough but also punchy enough. With an off the shelf pack of IB4200, I can have 10+ minutes run time on those combo.

Alot of you may not realize, for EP buggy you really don't have to spend alot in batteries, matching pack will be over kill in my opinion, just remeber one thing, there are only so much so you can go with your tyres up to a point that the traction give up. Off road are not like on road that it was always grippy and you need good batteries and super fast motor to win. Buggy are alot cheaper to race, the tyre normally last along time and if you are getting in EP buggy now, go and get yourself a set of brushless system, that will be money well spend..
作者: agentjerry    時間: 2007-5-10 19:40
原帖由 joho 於 2007-5-10 17:14 發表
For brushless motor, if you are playing 4WD, the best will be a 5.5 motor. And for 2WD, 7.5 turn will be the best. This is exactly what I am ausing to race in Thailand and it prove to be not just f ...



very very good english
作者: joho    時間: 2007-5-10 19:48
Please be excuse if my english are not that good, don't mean to offend anyone, just offer some opinion..
作者: agentjerry    時間: 2007-5-10 21:02
原帖由 joho 於 2007-5-10 19:48 發表
Please be excuse if my english are not that good, don't mean to offend anyone, just offer some opinion..



no la. you study in foreign country? Britain or USA?

作者: rk2    時間: 2007-5-10 21:06
原帖由 RX78amuroray 於 2007-5-10 13:33 發表
http://www.ttechracing.com/x11/images.html


The suspension damper location is so strange But I like it.
作者: joho    時間: 2007-5-10 21:38
Australia to be exact..
原帖由 agentjerry 於 2007-5-10 21:02 發表



no la. you study in foreign country? Britain or USA?

作者: eason    時間: 2007-5-10 22:51
原帖由 agentjerry 於 2007-5-10 21:02 發表



no la. you study in foreign country? Britain or USA?


I think it doesn't matter where are you from........but the most important thing is that the language is understandable........stop critizising please.......
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-10 23:00
原帖由 jojocat 於 2007-5-10 14:23 發表
If I use brushless motor for buggy, Novak or LRP which one is bester and how many R or T is suitable for EP buggy?


6.5R.   LRP or Novak are find
作者: agentjerry    時間: 2007-5-10 23:36
原帖由 eason 於 2007-5-10 22:51 發表


I think it doesn't matter where are you from........but the most important thing is that the language is understandable........stop critizising please.......


who critize? u?

作者: joho    時間: 2007-5-10 23:42
Well Jerry, I guess your comment just sounds abit... I thought you are teasing my english too. Anyway, no hard feelings.
作者: hkBuggyboy    時間: 2007-5-10 23:46
I have a old Team Losi XX-CR...take out to play sin
作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-11 01:39
標題: 回復 #76 joho 的帖子
謝謝你的寶貴意見及經驗,使我這初哥得益不少。
作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-11 01:59
標題: 回復 #83 RX78amuroray 的帖子
Thanks!
作者: bigben    時間: 2007-5-11 10:39
i think agentjerry really appreciate your standard of English instead of teasing you !!
作者: agentjerry    時間: 2007-5-11 19:40
原帖由 bigben 於 2007-5-11 10:39 發表
i think agentjerry really appreciate your standard of English instead of teasing you !!


sure la . i even don't know the meaning of teasing and need to check the dictionary.

my god!!!!


作者: joho    時間: 2007-5-11 21:28
It's all good, brother!
I am a buggy lover (Both EP and GP), I will love to see more people joining the scene!
作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-12 02:58
今天再經貓貓店老闆詳細解釋及了解我的需要後,最後都是出了 H PI - D4,真的不好意思打擾了他很多時間,但確實有賓至如歸的感覺。希望很快砌好,有幾會與各位師兄一起玩車,指導一下我這個初哥,謝謝!
作者: speedster    時間: 2007-5-12 04:27
原帖由 rockdragon 於 2007-5-10 16:00 發表
Late last year during the first release introduction price, I managed to get one of the XRS.




http://9turbo.net/2006/index.php ... ;attach=83706;image

WOW! So cool.... A little bit jealous....Haha. Where did you get this? How much did you spend?....
原帖由 binary 於 2007-5-10 16:53 發表
"Sky price" is one thing, getting spare parts is another.  

Sources of spare parts will never be a problem!...
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When you treat it as a scale model, and just push it by hands at home....
作者: rockdragon    時間: 2007-5-12 09:08
原帖由 speedster 於 2007-5-12 04:27 發表

WOW! So cool.... A little bit jealous....Haha. Where did you get this? How much did you spend?....



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It was middle last year I ordered directly form the UK TTech Racing Web Site during the preorder of the first production released.
I got it for USD 305 + FedEX USD 45 ........  


Some pics detail of what is inside the box ..........       Click HERE   
作者: rk2    時間: 2007-5-12 09:11
原帖由 jojocat 於 2007-5-12 02:58 發表
今天再經貓貓店老闆詳細解釋及了解我的需要後,最後都是出了 H PI - D4,真的不好意思打擾了他很多時間,但確實有賓至如歸的感覺。希望很快砌好,有幾會與各位師兄一起玩車,指導一下我這個初哥,謝謝!


Hi brother, can you show some pics inside the box ? so excite to see it ........ even the parts (not yet assembled)
作者: joho    時間: 2007-5-12 14:49
Now all you need is to build it up and goto the track and race...
作者: DriftNoobie    時間: 2007-5-12 16:43
原帖由 jojocat 於 2007-5-12 02:58 發表
今天再經貓貓店老闆詳細解釋及了解我的需要後,最後都是出了 H PI - D4,真的不好意思打擾了他很多時間,但確實有賓至如歸的感覺。希望很快砌好,有幾會與各位師兄一起玩車,指導一下我這個初哥,謝謝!


How much ah?
作者: DriftNoobie    時間: 2007-5-12 16:46
原帖由 speedster 於 2007-5-10 13:30 發表
http://www.ttechracing.com/x11/Resources/shota.jpeg
http://www.ttechracing.com/x11/Resources/topview.jpeg
predator...how to get this in hk? too beautiful, can be a collector item...don't mind if  ...


This buggy looks beautiful.

But the comments from users are not good.

Parts are badly fitted and performance is only so-so for such an expensive buggy.

[ 本帖最後由 DriftNoobie 於 2007-5-12 16:49 編輯 ]
作者: jojocat    時間: 2007-5-12 23:25
標題: 回復 #97 DriftNoobie 的帖子
$2,800.-
作者: RX78amuroray    時間: 2007-5-16 01:09
BJ4
http://www.jconcepts.net/shop/pr ... /21/products_id/114

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