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作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-11 13:58
標題: TA05 入冷宮!!!
After today's race.... TA05 正式入冷宮

Doesn't matter how I set it.  Asked all around, and can get the car running correctly.  It's like drifting on the track.....

I tried with different ride height, springs, damper adjustment, camber.  Tires were Tamiya Reinforced B3.  And the car just drifting around the track.    Motor was Trinity Co27.  In a 5min race, I ran 3 more laps with my white pig M03 than my 27T TA05

Can it be the lower deck issue?  Lower desk looks a little 彎曲....  Should I get a Carbon lower deck???  
作者: 蒙古殺手    時間: 2007-6-11 14:07
set 返好 down stop  未呀?
4 隻腳比你限死唔陏得, 架車又點走得好呢?
作者: Mobility(雲)    時間: 2007-6-11 14:14
原帖由 GigaRacer 於 2007-6-11 01:58 PM 發表
After today's race.... TA05 正式入冷宮

Doesn't matter how I set it.  Asked all around, and can get the car running correctly.  It's like drifting on the track.....

I tried with different r ...


Kid............pay more attention
it is your problem rather than the car itself
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-11 14:16
標題: 回復 #2 蒙古殺手 的帖子
Corrected la, but still didn't solve the problem.  I don't know if the long term incorrect down stop made the lower deck 彎曲
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-11 14:18
標題: 回復 #3 Mobility(雲) 的帖子
It has to be the setting....  btw, I am an old man
作者: chrishkyung    時間: 2007-6-11 14:24
downstop is very important.....how many downstop value u adopted for your TA05....

BTW, please check if your transmission is smooth.....I have come across this experience in my touring car....a small stone was knocked in the pitch of the rear gear pulley....the car always oversteer once off throttle.....trying  many setup, but cant solve the problem...finally, I know the problem is the unwanted small stone in the pulley....upon removal of this stone, everything appears in order...

So check your rear transmission very carefully....check if any unwanted object
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-11 14:26
標題: 回復 #6 chrishkyung 的帖子
I just clean up both gear boxes before the race.  Just that I didn't clean the ball diff, and it's not absolutely smooth, but it's not really bad.  Shouldn't be an issue.
作者: 007    時間: 2007-6-11 14:33
What kind of tires are you using? Tires play a very important role.
作者: chrishkyung    時間: 2007-6-11 14:44
1) what downstop value u ar using?

2) what spring and oil u ar using ?

3) please check if the belts are in good condition?

4) please check those pulleys to ensure no unwanted objects (just cleaning the gear box is not enough because those minor object could be hidden in the pitch of the pulley

5) check if the car can run smoothly,...maybe ball bearing die already

6) please check rear toe in...if the a-arm or a-arm stand already distorted
作者: chrishkyung    時間: 2007-6-11 15:49
BTW, which lexan body u ar using....it also affect the performance wooh
作者: Mobility(雲)    時間: 2007-6-11 15:56
原帖由 GigaRacer 於 2007-6-11 02:18 PM 發表
It has to be the setting....  btw, I am an old man


I hv a perfect setting TA05......

you can ask 007
作者: AMAT    時間: 2007-6-11 19:09
TA05絕對係超易SET又易走O既車嚟......
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-12 00:02
標題: 回復 #9 chrishkyung 的帖子
1) I don't know..... I thought downstop is for lowering the car, so I didn't have rebounds.  And possible damaged the lower deck.

2) I have the TRF oil damper with 40 oil and yellow spring front and rear

3) Rear belt is brand new, front belt is good condition

4) I just opened and cleaned both gear boxes

5) All bearing cleaned before the race

6) all still good.  nothing broke.  

Here is what I am going to do..... get a new lower deck, different color springs, and then I will re-build the car including the dampers It will take a while to order the parts, and take a long time before I can start doing anything..... so TA05 will be in 冷宮
作者: ogre    時間: 2007-6-12 00:32
不如你搵人地比賽d setting 試下sin la~
成個抄落黎試下...
再就下自己習慣再set..
日本仔都有d 27turn ge 比賽ga...
我個時架tb02 都係咁~
抄左人地個setting 之後完全吾同晒...

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http://www.geocities.jp/freefiveten/index3.htm

[ 本帖最後由 ogre 於 2007-6-12 00:39 編輯 ]
作者: Nobuta    時間: 2007-6-12 01:24
原帖由 ogre 於 2007-6-12 00:32 發表
不如你搵人地比賽d setting 試下sin la~
成個抄落黎試下...
再就下自己習慣再set..
日本仔都有d 27turn ge 比賽ga...
我個時架tb02 都係咁~
抄左人地個setting 之後完全吾同晒...

http://hk.search ...

邊到有得抄tb02
我又要
作者: ogre    時間: 2007-6-12 09:13
原帖由 Nobuta 於 2007-6-12 01:24 AM 發表

邊到有得抄tb02
我又要

我睇搖控車書抄返黎ga
作者: ttyy    時間: 2007-6-12 09:56
Tires were Tamiya Reinforced B3..

try the A tires as well? What kind of surface u are running? I think it's the tires

down stop is for controlling the down travel of the suspension arms. For ride height, adjust the spring collar on the shock.

try rear toe in as well.
作者: aydinkao    時間: 2007-6-12 11:30
M..  try to use TAMIYA tire type-A , even SOREX.
Tire is everything !!!
My TA05 only change「carbon-fiber shock stay」,「TA04 Hard Rear Upright(toe-in 0-degree)」,serpent shock ,the others are all original . I even use Futaba S3003 servo . But all grip of my TA05 comes from SOREX 28-degree , even other players use SOREX 36-degree(on XRAY T2 or etc.) . TA05 is a heavy car , require a bit more suspension stroke . You may 「Tamiya Reinforced B3」入冷宮, but try other TIRES .
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-13 01:28
標題: 回復 #18 aydinkao 的帖子
Speaking of that..... I was using 60D Reinforced Type-A for my cooper, and that's lotttts of grip.  So.... is it really just the tires???  Hmmm.....  That day wasn't very hot, so maybe Type-A better than Type B3.
作者: Rcrounder    時間: 2007-6-13 01:53
標題: 回復 #13 GigaRacer 的帖子
1) I don't know..... I thought downstop is for lowering the car, so I didn't have rebounds.  And possible damaged the lower deck.

No down stop --> very little or no grip (tires lifted off the ground) on inner side of tires when turning
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-13 06:43
標題: 回復 #20 Rcrounder 的帖子
you mean "no down stop" or "no rebounds" cause no grip?
作者: soilderman83    時間: 2007-6-13 07:41
原帖由 GigaRacer 於 2007-6-11 13:58 發表
After today's race.... TA05 正式入冷宮

Doesn't matter how I set it.  Asked all around, and can get the car running correctly.  It's like drifting on the track.....

I tried with different r ...

IN my opinion,tire is the main main point,if use the wrong tire,it is very diffcult to get the right setting,also,may be it's my problem only,this car the main problem is easy overheat on summer,this car easy make motor and esc very hot and make the performance down!
作者: ttyy    時間: 2007-6-13 09:53
use B tires only in July/ Aug if u are in North America...esp during mid afternoon...other than that, pls stick with A tires. Type B doesn't work at all if air temp is around 15 to 25 Degree C..
作者: chi    時間: 2007-6-13 13:47
sounds like a problem I had had when I started playing.
Mr. Gigaracer, try this test.
1. Put your car on a flat suface, (eg. table top)
2. With the car's rear or front facing you, lift up the chassis of the car from the centre of the bumper/rear
3. Does your A-arms travel a little downwards before the wheels lift off the surface?

If the wheels lift off the surface as soon as you lift up the chassis, maybe you do not have enough down stop.
If the car runs in this condition, what happens is, when the chassis of the car rolls around a corner, the "outside" wheel might be in the air and results a very unpredictable car.......

the down stop controls how much the arms drop when you lift up the chassis. for ride height, use the springs on the damper to adjust.

Hope this help.

Chi
作者: 朝偉    時間: 2007-6-13 14:05
原帖由 GigaRacer 於 2007-6-11 13:58 發表
After today's race.... TA05 正式入冷宮

Doesn't matter how I set it.  Asked all around, and can get the car running correctly.  It's like drifting on the track.....

I tried with different r ...

換手指先啦
作者: Rcrounder    時間: 2007-6-14 01:12
原帖由 GigaRacer 於 2007-6-13 06:43 發表
you mean "no down stop" or "no rebounds" cause no grip?


Yes, should have said no rebound caused by wrong down stop setting.
作者: 偉記    時間: 2007-6-14 11:28
你有冇hudy1:10套set車架?
set downstop -10mm,車高頭4mm,尾4.5mm
我跟足說明書set,頭用白彈弓,油50,尾用藍/王彈弓,油40
車架軟,次次跑完車架扭,所以換左炭底(tau),
跑23t換頭單向
我架ta-05就係咁set,你可以試下好唔好跑
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-15 01:38
標題: 回復 #25 朝偉 的帖子
Not the fingers..... at least I got B2 in a mini race.  
作者: GigaRacer    時間: 2007-6-15 01:59
標題: 回復 #27 偉記 的帖子
Bro 偉記, thanks for the setup tips.  

Thanks everyone's suggestions.  

My TA05 is FIXED!!!!!!!!!!  It's alllll because of the rear ball diff.....  I disassemble it, and clean it, and now the car is all good with center one-way.  No more drifting around

[ 本帖最後由 GigaRacer 於 2007-6-14 12:35 編輯 ]
作者: 朝偉    時間: 2007-6-17 19:33
原帖由 GigaRacer 於 2007-6-15 01:38 發表
Not the fingers..... at least I got B2 in a mini race.  

oh,you are so lucky




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