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作者: yin1992 時間: 2008-7-18 01:08
我都有2條藍電4千6
仲要次次差都好熱 作者: orangeteam 時間: 2008-7-18 01:12
咁大獲
我無用藍電好耐,轉左玩鋰電有Ｄ驚作者: wah2320 時間: 2008-7-18 01:16
標題: 回復 3# 的帖子
鋰電會唔會安全d 呢?
作者: AMAT 時間: 2008-7-18 01:22
唔用平衡充電機.....一樣有可能會咁.....爆得仲勁......
所以鋰電一見佢脹就知佢就玩完.....
至於IB電......3A都爆.....就真係......可能入面真係有O的問題......
作者: fung198586 時間: 2008-7-18 01:23
我用紅電4600，都差到好熱
作者: 馮馮ymc 時間: 2008-7-18 01:24
唔小心用一樣會爆,不過好小差爆作者: coltm16 時間: 2008-7-18 01:26
我用條1400藍電叉1A....第一次就爆咗中間嗰粒La,拿去換.,要保$
自這次以後,不會再用它!
作者: AMAT 時間: 2008-7-18 01:28
坦白講.....IB同EP電.....個人都覺得頭果幾次用都幾好.....但唔少鋪頭賣果O的都極有可能係啪過.....
頭一兩次都冇乜事.....但之後就會內阻值升得好快.......之後就會嚟料.....
所以我盡可能都唔買IB同EP電......EP電我買都係為玩YMC.....
我自己其他電全部都唔係換晒做ORION就係GP3900.....宜家都放棄埋玩LIPO.....
作者: wah2320 時間: 2008-7-18 01:32
原帖由 AMAT 於 2008-7-18 01:22 發表
唔用平衡充電機.....一樣有可能會咁.....爆得仲勁......
所以鋰電一見佢脹就知佢就玩完.....
至於IB電......3A都爆.....就真係......可能入面真係有O的問題......
但係頭3次都冇事wo!個程序都係一樣,只係4a轉3a差,係唔係時間用左2個鍾多d既原因呢?想問吓c.兄,其實差4600mah大約要多少時間呢?
作者: wah2320 時間: 2008-7-18 01:41
標題: 回復 11# 的帖子
冇wo! 部 i-max b6 都冇感溫線
作者: AMAT 時間: 2008-7-18 01:51
原帖由 wah2320 於 2008-7-18 01:32 發表
但係頭3次都冇事wo!個程序都係一樣,只係4a轉3a差,係唔係時間用左2個鍾多d既原因呢?想問吓c.兄,其實差4600mah大約要多少時間呢?
可能你部差機個SETTING出現問題掛.......
4600用3A差其實唔應該出現呢個問題.......
但係IB電本身體質有問題.....所以真係好難講......
作者: AMAT 時間: 2008-7-18 01:51
都係攞番去舖頭,睇下有冇得換啦! good luck用咗幾次....邊有得換.....
作者: wah2320 時間: 2008-7-18 02:09
標題: 回復 15# 的帖子
都係用鋰電好過,以前玩開直昇機用鋰電到現在2排鋰電都冇事.不過11.1v 2200mah 20c 唔啱電車用.想問吓 c兄,用鋰電要買7.2v 幾多mah,幾多c .咩牌子好呢?我用來玩drift...thx
作者: 阿De 時間: 2008-7-18 02:30
有d水氣出 <---
我都試過一次差到咁
不過果陣係用d 200幾蚊 既差機
出水氣果下 真係好得人驚
係狂噴出黎 不過最後我排電冇爆炸 因為我一見出水氣即刻cut電先作者: kit 時間: 2008-7-18 02:48
會唔會係佢用把風扇吹住排電
排電唔識跳,係咁差到唔識停ar??
作者: 楊不悔 時間: 2008-7-18 04:39
嘩...=.= 好似好恐怖....
我想問我玩電車,應該買邊隻叉機同埋邊隻電比較安全同好用@@?
同埋要幾多C同MAH先岩嫁@@?
岩岩諗住亂買....睇完依個POST有少少唔敢亂買叉機同電=_=
作者: GigaRacer 時間: 2008-7-18 06:05
Lipo is better. Don't know about others, but Orion Lipo is very safe
作者: AMAT 時間: 2008-7-18 08:43
一定唔係
作者: Auntie 時間: 2008-7-18 10:29
Let me comment from what I read from you.
1. Imax 6 (or similar devices like GT Power, E-Max .....) has POOR peak detect design for NiMH, therefore I have highly NOT recommend to use IMax (or similar LiPO charger with NiMH charging function) charger to charge NiMH cells. These machines will overcharge NiMH cells and cause permanant demage to NiMH cells !
2. Using Cooling Fan to remove heat from charging packs will only cause further OVERCHARGING. Again, we should STOP using it in charging !
3. If the packs is fully charged, it is fully charged. It doesn't mean a 4600 cells need to take 4600mAH charge UNLESS, it is discharged to 0.9v before charging. Repeak the pack will only convert charge into HEAT only.
4. Cells exploded are not exploded by themselves. It is because shrink on the cells was melted open. So cells are shorted to next cells and cause Short-circuit and EXPLODE !!!
作者: Auntie 時間: 2008-7-18 10:31
至於IB電......3A都爆.....就真係......可能入面真係有O的問題......
Hi AMAT, sorry I cannot totally agree with you.
作者: cowboy 時間: 2008-7-18 10:42
原帖由 Auntie 於 2008-7-18 10:29 發表
Let me comment from what I read from you.
1. Imax 6 (or similar devices like GT Power, E-Max .....) has POOR peak detect design for NiMH, therefore I have highly NOT recommend to use IMax (or simil ...
Totally agreed!
Apart from the substandard cells, such incidents are mainly caused by ignorance, especially putting a cooling fan in front of IB cells when charging.
作者: hoching 時間: 2008-7-18 10:48
可能把風扇唔夠大把
風唔夠大吹唔凍作者: Auntie 時間: 2008-7-18 11:08
Here is why explosion happened :
1. Imax B6 overcharge the pack and the cells vented (a signal of overcharging). It caused very hot cells. At this moment, the cells are potentially unsafe.
2. After fully charged, user continue to put charge in ... Cells are totally overcharged and unsafe.
3. User use fan to cool the surface of the pack, it cause false idea to user, cells are not HOT. But other than the area with Fan cool, all other area of the cells are extremely hot. In this stage, shrink was starting to melt and open somewhere around the cells.
3. After seeing the shrink open, cells are shorting to each other already. Therefore, after few seconds, the pressure generated due to high discharge cause explosion.
作者: Auntie 時間: 2008-7-18 11:10
可能把風扇唔夠大把
Do we need a 雪櫃 ??
作者: wah2320 時間: 2008-7-18 11:17
標題: 回復 27# 的帖子
今早我又攞排新電(IB-4600)來差,全程睇住,差到2750部機就叫.b.b.聲,顯示出FULL.你話係唔係玩野....
作者: me5354 時間: 2008-7-18 11:29
我用星星3300電,用左兩年幾,3A充電10A放電都無咩理佢放到幾多就停咁講究,一路到依家都無問題,會唔會玩得越專業D電仲死得快,反而粗粗地對佢好地地
作者: hoching 時間: 2008-7-18 12:00
好似NiMH爆得多過鋰電
作者: hoching 時間: 2008-7-18 12:02
如果你用MUCH MORE CELL MASTER (限定樣板)重快dFULL
[ 本帖最後由 hoching 於 2008-7-18 12:04 編輯 ]
作者: 12wai3 時間: 2008-7-18 12:13
標題: 回復 1# 的帖子
華哥, 有無事呀, 我自己都係用Intellect 4600, 但係用橫電, 用4.5 差,都係比其他既電熱同成日都聽到氣孔放氣D 聲. 睇完你幅相好驚,
最重要人無事.[ 本帖最後由 12wai3 於 2008-7-18 12:18 編輯 ]
作者: 12wai3 時間: 2008-7-18 12:20
標題: 回復 28# 的帖子
華哥, D 幾排電都怪怪地喎, 二千幾又停. 有無試過放落車玩爆唔爆架?
作者: wah2320 時間: 2008-7-18 17:05
冇事.走得快,多謝關心.我冇試過放落車度玩,架車個電變未set,d 燈未裝,今晚應該會完成.我架新車.哈哈...
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作者: 呀吉 時間: 2008-7-18 21:11
係唔係差機有咩問題,所以唔識停?
作者: 呀吉 時間: 2008-7-18 21:16
原帖由 Auntie 於 2008-7-18 10:29 發表
Let me comment from what I read from you.
1. Imax 6 (or similar devices like GT Power, E-Max .....) has POOR peak detect design for NiMH, therefore I have highly NOT recommend to use IMax (or simil ...
原來係咁,係人既問題
作者: louis09183 時間: 2008-7-18 21:27
其實鋰電真係安全好多我覺得...
通常都係個條rule..
就係唔好玩到無哂電先收車,無乜力就收得...
我玩左咁耐都係壞左一個balance插
(其實係因為我拔插方法錯左)所以強烈推薦你改用鋰電唷!
作者: edmondhk 時間: 2008-7-18 21:30
我排電都係差左4個字就full
3600藍電
作者: louis09183 時間: 2008-7-18 21:56
快dddd轉鋰電啦朋友
作者: TJ~1 時間: 2008-7-18 22:18
咁唔通低級D既電 要用返低級D既差機??
作者: lam727 時間: 2008-7-18 23:57
我都試個,差完4200等一等佢自動然燒..好彩發現得早...
作者: asus6800 時間: 2008-7-18 23:58
從來唔用ib電.........
作者: Rcrounder 時間: 2008-7-19 00:19
請不要以為鋰電安全,過充,短路,等都會可能爆炸,威力非同小可,會是一團火球,嚴重者致命.原因可以是
1.平衡插損壞而不知
2.义機矢靈
3.電池被尖物刺穿或重力撞挈
...
作者: wah2320 時間: 2008-7-19 00:51
一於轉鋰電玩電車,我以前玩電直都係用鋰電,到現在都冇事,...
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作者: Auntie 時間: 2008-7-19 02:45
For new cells, there are charges inside the cells. Therefore you can never charge 4600mAH into new cells.
作者: Auntie 時間: 2008-7-19 02:47
Again, my recommedation is not only for IB cells but for all type of NiMH batteries.
作者: ford 時間: 2008-7-19 03:13
原帖由 Auntie 於 2008-7-19 02:47 發表
Again, my recommedation is not only for IB cells but for all type of NiMH batteries.
SO, what we can do? If still need to use nimh batteries
how come we made it safety
作者: 12wai3 時間: 2008-7-19 12:12
標題: 回復 34# 的帖子
華哥, 部新車好正呀, 睇下有無機會一齊放18仔同01先.
作者: tomatob 時間: 2008-7-21 12:39
有冇放左電先再充電同用埋感溫線去check 住排電,咁會好啲
最好用獨立放電架個啲會好啲
咩電都係,用得唔好都一樣好易爆,鋰電一爆仲勁過直電
作者: edmondhk 時間: 2008-7-21 17:23
換左差機
不過多左野睇後仲怕
差左900mah都冇就上到8.9v
用1c差,3600藍電
作者: RX78amuroray 時間: 2008-7-21 21:43
唔可以吹
作者: stephenchow 時間: 2008-7-21 22:59
我都有用 IB 4600mAh電，仲好襟用，不過用法比較保險，都想分享下。
方法係"唔好叉足"，又"唔好放足"。
例如我試過delta peak cut, 知 pack 電可以叉倒 4700mAh 先 cut，我之後就 set 佢叉 4400mAh 倒， 用 capacity cut。放車果陣部車一無力就收車，千奇唔好過放，然後用 discharger balance。
雖然玩少左3幾百mAh，但 pack 電真係長命唔止兩倍呀！！
平時操車值得咁玩。
作者: tomatob 時間: 2008-7-22 10:27
3600,唔好要喇,幾個fd 都係壞呢隻電,想耐用,gp 電唔錯,用左成年,排 gp3900 仲可以差到去 38xx,平時玩車一流
作者: AMAT 時間: 2008-7-22 10:30
我唔用IB,所以唔知IB點......
但我自己用果O的EP電呢.......我得四排.......淨係要嚟田宮杯玩用......
我每次都係玩完就咁放係到,放一個月又唔定個半月又唔定......每次用之前就CYCLE,放完電就差.....
差完就用嚟試車,試完車就再差,唔放O架喇,暫時計咁用法,排電都仍然仲係幾爆O既.......
我係用CHECKPOINT同埋呢個TEAM ORION差機O既......
至於GP電....我已經唔用.....所以唔知.....但之前我都係用呢個方法嚟做.
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