which brushless system is the best?

Seems lots of people buying and testing the LRP system!!!
Some of them said LRP's 4 Star brushless motor is slower than the Novak's but the LRP's ESC is better than the Novak's one. And some A main driver turning their wheel towards the brushless system in HK, in my own observation that the brushless system is more torque than the brush system, no matter you use the most Powerful VFS1 with a V2 motor, it can always piss you off out of the corner, but i had never try to rise my gear ratio to above 10 ( i'm using the VFS1 with a v2 7 x 1, and most of the brushless driver are using 10 or above gear ratio ), and the top speed of them are around 7 turn ( at the TC track ). I had try my friends 4.5r system that give me a hard time to control the car, because of the high torque output, its more aggressive, on the other hands that you need to be more and more gentle on your throttle control!!! Maybe its the time to change your system????
SO would all of your guys sharing your own experience, please!!! Thanks
thanks for your vote too!!

[ 本帖最後由 teddybear 於 2006-4-9 06:01 編輯 ]

Something had happened to my friend's 4.5R Novak system,
the ESC burns out while my friend playing his second round!!!
Seems is cause by overheating!!!
And the other true story is ....... one of the Novak user had bruns his ESC at the first time he use, cause by hell, it's  not casue by any faulty wiring!!!
Does anyone had the same problems before???

原帖由 teddybear 於 2006-4-10 03:03 發表
Something had happened to my friend's 4.5R Novak system,
the ESC burns out while my friend playing his second round!!!
Seems is cause by overheating!!!
And the other true story is ....... one  ...

I've been used 4.5R for about 15 packs of battery..... no overheating issue.

overheat problem always related to use not proper gear ratio....

hi binary, the burning case of my friend's spec :

car type: cyclone
gear ratio: 9.8 around
battey: 3800
ESC: GTB 4.5
temp on that day: around 25
no extra fan
just for the case study to all of you guys, nothing meaning and i had no doubt about the quality of the Novak's product

原帖由 teddybear 於 2006-4-11 05:39 發表
hi binary, the burning case of my friend's spec :

car type: cyclone
gear ratio: 9.8 around
battey: 3800
ESC: GTB 4.5
temp on that day: around 25
no extra fan
just for the case study to al ...

Hi Teddybear, here is my case:

car type: Pro4
gear ratio: 10.38
battey: 4200
ESC: GTB 4.5
temp on that day: around 25
no extra fan

Since I'm a newbie on Brushless, so I deliberately set the gear ratio to over 10, both the motor and the ESC were only a little bit warm (you can comfortably put your finger on ESC without any problem) after 10-15 minutes run.  So, I can sure that it also works fine even with gear ratio around 9.0 - 9.5.  

thanks binary, i think my friend's one is the exceptional case only, oh i do driving a pro 4 too!

any comment about "Nosram" ??.....

and can you guys share your opinion on what you had choose and why not the other?

I use Novak at the moment. The choice I made is because the brand name. I never have one ESC from Novak have problem in my RC life. They specify very clear of their product spec. and capability.
For LRP, they don't really specify clear in a lot of points. So you never know it's margain. Sometimes you may burn it for that few points.

hi orange thanks for your opinion, so what is your set up?

performance also same
but the price one is 17XX,LRP around 22xx....

我用 TB Evo IV, LRP Vector 3-star (9T) + Sphere, 行 96T + 30T = 7.34

都幾 OK 喎 (全車已加 Shim 片 fit 位，改用頭尾珠差，電變及摩打均有安裝風扇)

曾聽有 D 高手話，Brushless system 用至 9T 是速度及扭力之間的較佳平衡點，若至 7T 只適合比賽用及較難操控，大家點睇？

hi brushless, thanks for your sharing here! But i would like to try the 4 star, because it seems a big difference between them, no matter in terms of power or speed, i think it just about time to get use to the power and speed. in my memory that when i change to play modify motor from 23T, i crash my car all the time but now i get use to it la....

LRP Vector 3-star (9T) + Sphere

how much?

Ferrari - LRP Vector 3-star (9T) + Sphere = about $21XX

teddybear - I know that 4 Star is much more faster than 3 Star at RPM, but how about your consideration for the Torque?

原帖由 minimini 於 2006-4-13 00:05 發表
any comment about "Nosram" ??.....

我都想知

原帖由 UPS 於 2007-5-25 10:20 發表



我都想知

Nosram is identical to LRP.... just an OEM product.

原帖由 binary 於 2007-5-25 10:33 發表


Nosram is identical to LRP.... just an OEM product.

thx brother

I am playing Novak 4.5r, my comment is good....