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作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-19 13:31
標題: 誠意請教,what car to buy?
i am a newbie today but had played v one R ten years ago. And played a china made GP big foot monster lately. Now, wanna buy a GP on-road car. i would like to buy a kit set. Wondering 1:10 or 1:8 is better. And which model is good to have future hop up possibilities. All c hings pls feel free to give honest advice.

作者: bear_cat_x 時間: 2014-3-19 15:43
played with v1r is not considered newbie la Ching. nevertheless, v1r3 is recommended because it is cheaper and parts are still available

作者: RWJ 時間: 2014-3-19 17:25
vone Rrr拉！！

作者: KEI_RRR 時間: 2014-3-20 00:02
V-ONE SR
http://kyosho.com/eng/products/rc/detail.html?product_id=104963

作者: bear_cat_x 時間: 2014-3-20 09:55
玩開v1r好唔容易down grade喎

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 09:33

bear_cat_x 發表於 2014-3-19 15:43
played with v1r is not considered newbie la Ching. nevertheless, v1r3 is recommended because it is c ...

thx c hing

. I m really a newbie. I bought and played the V-one-S II (note: i even mixed up the model no.

). Bought it simply recommended by a R/C shop, not because i knew which car performed better or was value for money. Then played for a couple times, if i remember correctly < 10 times because no companinon. You know play alone was somtimes quite boring and frustrated, particularly when there was technical problem. so, this is my shallow background

. c hing 們見笑了

In anyway, my heart inside has never given this hobby up. So i restarted playing with a cheap china made GP big foot in Dec13. Still a nut street runner

without improvment. This time i wanna buy a GP car which is good in long term playing purpose. Wish this potential one is popular and easy in terms of parts replacement and hop up in the current market.

c hing. i m interested in the one you mentioned v1r3. Is it equivalent to v1rrr? i find there are some quite different RRR models in the Kyosho official web site

. A bit confusing to me. Could you pls provide me more information about it.

Sorry sorry for the inconvenience i bought u guys! As always, people wanna buy the best costing the least!

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 09:45

RWJ 發表於 2014-3-19 17:25
vone Rrr拉！！

Thank you ching. Another c hing probably suggested the same model as you do. By the way, any physical shops in HK i can visit nowadays? Or should i go for the internet shops? I am out of this hobby for many many years. Months ago, i went to Mongkok trying to window shopping R/C cars, very unfortunately i could only find a few shops with very few R/C cars and even didn't see any GP model

. But i really like the smell and sound made by GP cars

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 09:56

KEI_RRR 發表於 2014-3-20 00:02
V-ONE SR
http://kyosho.com/eng/products/rc/detail.html?product_id=104963

thx ching for your suggestion. up to now, ching 們 have recommended v-One SR, v1r3 and v-one-RRR. In fact, how is the ranking of them in terms of performance or years of production? you reminded me to visit the Kyosho website but i am quite confused

所以厚面皮地好像直接問c hing好D, pls forgive my rudeness

作者: ckcgary 時間: 2014-3-22 11:00

flai 發表於 2014-3-22 09:33
thx c hing. I m really a newbie. I bought and played the V-one-S II (note: i even mixed ...

Is your V-One-S II still available? If so, why don't you start playing with it now? It looks good and should be no problem for start playing until it retire.
If you don't have companion, please come to join us at Kwai Fong. Most Ching play on Sat night (sometimes Fri night). They will setup track and feel free to have fun and they are knowledgeable to help resolving problem. I am newbie too and they helped me much.

You can refer to the host's post like below.
http://rc-evo.com/xbbs/thread-315749-1-1.html

作者: KEI_RRR 時間: 2014-3-22 11:14

flai 發表於 2014-3-22 09:56
thx ching for your suggestion. up to now, ching 們 have recommended v-One SR, v1r3 and v-one-RRR. ...

可用中文嗎？

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 11:15

ckcgary 發表於 2014-3-22 11:00
Is your V-One-S II still available? If so, why don't you start playing with it now? It looks goo ...

c hing. Yes, the car is still on hand. I intentionally took the car out from cabinet and took 2 pictures this morning to share with all c hings. Well, yes i also wanna start the engine to see if it is working or not. However, the battery case in the remote control has broken. I have to buy a new one for this. So i havent tried firing up the engine. Besides, i am afraid that i can't find replacement parts anymore in the market and i got no place nearby allowing me to play it. The one free R/C field (beneath Goose Neck Bridge) has closed down

BTW, will u guys play tonight at the Wing Gei Road? If so, I wanna go and visit c hings there to learn more about R/C car before deciding which one to buy

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 11:27

KEI_RRR 發表於 2014-3-22 11:14
可用中文嗎？

师兄，好的，只因我的手寫板反應不良而且是简体字，所以用了好差的英文，對不起。我有点不明白是RRR, SR, v1r3 它们的分别？如performance 表现档次和生产年份。因小弟想目标比较新的车子而parts 和未来upgrade hop up 也较容易找到的。

作者: KEI_RRR 時間: 2014-3-22 11:38

flai 發表於 2014-3-22 11:27
师兄，好的，只因我的手寫板反應不良而且是简体字，所以用了好差的英文，對不起。我有点不明白是RRR, SR, ...

RRR 高級，
SR 及 V-ONE SIII 都算中級，
但SR 是RRR平板，寶下都會變RRR，
及大部份parts 共用.

作者: ckcgary 時間: 2014-3-22 12:30

flai 發表於 2014-3-22 11:15
c hing. Yes, the car is still on hand. I intentionally took the car out from cabinet and took 2 ...

Is it 2A x 4 Battery Case? It is easy to get one at $10 or below.
Oh, we played last night already and you can join us next week.

I suggest to try your existing car first. I am newbie and start with a 10+ year car and happy with it and not easy to find parts in HK. I am poor, so I will buy a new one until it cannot move anymore.

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 15:06

ckcgary 發表於 2014-3-22 12:30
Is it 2A x 4 Battery Case? It is easy to get one at $10 or below.
Oh, we played last night alread ...

Oh, it's an 8 AA bettery case.  I wonder if Ap Liu Street has it.

And very lucky, i tried start the old engine on the V-One SII half an hour ago, amazingly it's up and running in just one pull or two by the recoil starter. I had it's fuel tank filled up by half and left it idle running until the fuel was completely used up.  The engine sounds healthy and stable.  I am very excited cos it's been sleeping in the cabinet for 10 years!

C hing, you said you have got a car of some 10 years old!  What if some of the parts broke?  How can you find replacement of it?  This is what I concern most of my ancient V-One SII.  And that's why I am planning to buy a new R/C car which is easy parts replacement and of high hop up possibility.

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 15:19

KEI_RRR 發表於 2014-3-22 11:38
RRR 高級，
SR 及 V-ONE SIII 都算中級，
但SR 是RRR平板，寶下都會變RRR，

Thank you c hing. 我刚才在淘宝看过一下，它们有的带engine 有的没有，但买家又没有好清楚的说

。 C hing, RRR 带engine 或要自己配呢？谢谢

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-22 15:23

KEI_RRR 發表於 2014-3-22 11:38
RRR 高級，
SR 及 V-ONE SIII 都算中級，
但SR 是RRR平板，寶下都會變RRR，

呀！HK 哪里可有店铺卖这些RRR, SR 的车子呢！去过旺角，多年以前有很多油车卖的，现在好像没见到那里有卖，而且店也少了很多

作者: KEI_RRR 時間: 2014-3-22 15:43

flai 發表於 2014-3-22 15:23
呀！HK 哪里可有店铺卖这些RRR, SR 的车子呢！去过旺角，多年以前有很多油车卖的，现在好像没见到那里有 ...

現時電車潮流，多數門市都無貨，你要問可否幫你訂.

作者: KEI_RRR 時間: 2014-3-22 15:47

flai 發表於 2014-3-22 15:19
Thank you c hing. 我刚才在淘宝看过一下，它们有的带engine 有的没有，但买家又没有好清楚的说。 C ...

SR 是有引驚，RRR 香港多數唔跟.

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-23 15:08

KEI_RRR 發表於 2014-3-22 15:47
SR 是有引驚，RRR 香港多數唔跟.

昨天下午终于找到BIG 街那间老字号，见到SR ,但店员回应比较负面。而RRR 说老款了已没有。更好的有R4s但说代理也没引进HK。后来推荐 Serpent 747说是最新的, 这车不用考虑升級，因已非常好，而且parts 也足够。但要另买engine, exhaust pipe, wheel & tire 等等！

后来又在肥姐红肠楼上找到一家，忘了店名字，那里也有SR 而且有两款，貴那款带Audi R8 cover 和 engine 带手拉, 平宜那款没cover，有engine但没手拉，所以要另买starter box。老板还介绍FW06, 说这车有很多hop up parts, 改装后性能非常好！

所以有点乱，Serpent 747, SR 两款，或FW06，或其他？？？

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-23 15:16
各位骨格精奇的油车的師兄們, 你们在玩什么车型呢？好让小弟参詳参詳一下，免走歪路，公德无量，谢谢！

作者: bear_cat_x 時間: 2014-3-23 16:38
I suggest that you should recover your v1s, get familiar with it before but a rrr or r4.

作者: wah1982 時間: 2014-3-23 22:21
xray nt1

作者: bear_cat_x 時間: 2014-3-23 22:27
my point of view:
fw06- class c
v1s- class b
v1r, r2, r3; nt1; mtx; 747- class a
v1r4- class s (comparable to class a but abnormally expensive)

作者: bear_cat_x 時間: 2014-3-23 22:28
nevertheless, a guy driving a taobao car can even bump my ass.

作者: ckcgary 時間: 2014-3-24 01:03
Serpent 748 已有傳快出了，所以 747 只是暫時最新.....

樓上貓師兄嘅分級已經好清楚，可以選擇合適你嘅......師兄你擔心 V One S 無 parts，其實反正你架 V One S 都係放喺櫃啫，何不用佢嚟熱身，而且都唔一定壞嘢，可能可以玩一段時間先......

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-24 23:20

bear_cat_x 發表於 2014-3-23 22:27
my point of view:
fw06- class c
v1s- class b

bear_cat c hing,

thank you so much for the ranking you provided. It can really help me understanding how each of the potential car is ranked in the R/C circle today. Without the list, i really don't know which way to go

Meanwhile, i m kind of interested in the cars listed in class a

Another c hing is like you, suggesting me to give my V-One SII a rebirth. I too believe it's a good idea. I m eager to join some car playing gatherings arranged by c hings in this forum to learn more before making my final decision.

in any case, thank you so much and all other c hings who provided valuable info to me as a newbie

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-24 23:24

wah1982 發表於 2014-3-23 22:21
xray nt1

Wow, c hing. I found out the features in http://www.teamxray.com/nt1/Xray NT1 today! What a car! it's so very attractive. It's definitely one of my target! Thanks thanks thanks

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-24 23:42

ckcgary 發表於 2014-3-24 01:03
Serpent 748 已有傳快出了，所以 747 只是暫時最新.....
樓上貓師兄嘅分級已經好清楚，可以選擇合適你嘅. ...

Yeah, c hing. It seems to worth a wait before deciding which to buy. With the very valuable information provided by you and all other 热心 c hings in the past few days, I understand much much more now! Meanwhile, 我比较心仪 747 or 748 / NT1 2013 or NT1 2014? / RRR or R4s

These cars are in class a! Besides the car itself, they all need matching engine, muffler, exhaust pipe, batteries, remote control units, wheel & tyre ...etc. It's not easy but i found it's very interesting to me. I guess that's why R/C GP cars hobby are so poisioned

Regarding my old V-One S II, you are right! I better get myself familiar with it before going further. Hope I can make it running

.

By the way, the remote controller i have is also an anicent AM one. If I pair my V-One S II with it, i am fraid that my cheap controller will jam other c hing's new controller playing nowadays

作者: cw10615 時間: 2014-3-25 00:24
小見識小,都算話玩過下1/10,1/8
見到其他CHING/自己經驗就係1/8煩少好多野同埋易操控好多,不仿可考慮1/8
剛玩油車既話最好JOIN下尼到D CHING D車局/入車場請教下各CHING
自己盲蹤蹤舞既話走既冤枉路會好多
而http://www.rctech.net/forum/ 尼個forum都有好多野可以參考下

作者: kelvinayhh 時間: 2014-3-25 00:39

flai 發表於 2014-3-24 23:42
Yeah, c hing. It seems to worth a wait before deciding which to buy. With the very valuable info ...

I think u should have a new remote control coz nowaday we are using 2.4G remote control. It responses more faster and there are more function on them. There are 2 popular brands - Futaba - Sanwa. They are good too. U may choose Sanwa MT4s or Futaba 4pls. These two are good and cheap. They are around 1500-1800

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-25 12:21

cw10615 發表於 2014-3-25 00:24
小見識小,都算話玩過下1/10,1/8
見到其他CHING/自己經驗就係1/8煩少好多野同埋易操控好多,不仿可考慮1/8
...

多谢 c hing 提醒, 这几天太集中 1：10 车，差点忘了 1：8 也是我最初的考虑。但我完全没有任何1：8车款的概念

。而且这些大车会否较大和速度又会更快, 我等新仔难以控制呢？ c hing 可否给点车型例子，我再上网 look look

另外 c hing 介绍那个 R/C Tech Forums 好正呀！那个 NT1 topic 有 500 多页，好多技术讨论, 虽然我一知半解，但肯定可以日后参考参考

。不过不知为何找不到专门的 747 topic。因这两车是目前我比较有意思的

c hing 说得非常对，最好JOIN下尼到D CHING D車局/入車場請教下各CHING，自己盲蹤蹤舞既話走既冤枉路會好多！我想走聪明路和带给c hing 们麻烦呢

。

真的多谢这里的热心 c hing 们，这几天我学了很多，也明白了不小

，虽然知道还有很多很多要学习的。 GP 车 lives on:)

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-25 12:35

kelvinayhh 發表於 2014-3-25 00:39
I think u should have a new remote control coz nowaday we are using 2.4G remote control. It respon ...

对呀！c hing, 遥控器也不得随便啊！ i will start looking at the 2 brand names and models that u suggested. By the way, are these two models good for the potential cars 747 or NT1 I am interested now?
Sorry again, c hing

. Same old question from new hand, where would these 2 models be easily found in HK? Or I should go for the internet way to buy. Million thx.

作者: kelvinayhh 時間: 2014-3-25 20:29

flai 發表於 2014-3-25 12:35
对呀！c hing, 遥控器也不得随便啊！ i will start looking at the 2 brand names and models that u s ...

If your budget is higher , u may choose Sanwa M12 or Futaba 4PKSR , they are the top of remote controls. But they're not cheap

They're more than $3000.U can find them easily in HK. These two brands are the most popular remote control manufacturer in HK!

作者: cw10615 時間: 2014-3-25 20:34

flai 發表於 2014-3-25 12:21
多谢 c hing 提醒, 这几天太集中 1：10 车，差点忘了 1：8 也是我最初的考虑。但我完全没有任何1：8车款 ...

10仔8仔都好似比較多人用mugen seiki,Serpent, xray既車架
你都可以上佢website 睇下

作者: ckcgary 時間: 2014-3-25 22:00

flai 發表於 2014-3-25 12:35
对呀！c hing, 遥控器也不得随便啊！ i will start looking at the 2 brand names and models that u s ...

如果你唔係去車場玩或參加比賽，AM 都可以係 good start，好多師兄都用緊 2.4G 控，所以參加車聚大多唔會撞，可以放心玩下架 V One SII 先。
當你決定買 1/8 或新 1/10，我都會建議你買新一套 2.4G 控。

1/8 去大場玩可以好快，如果係跑街或去球場玩，1/8 就大才小用咗啲，而且未到極速就要收油了(需然 1/10 都只係一剎那高速

)。

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-27 08:21

kelvinayhh 發表於 2014-3-25 20:29
If your budget is higher , u may choose Sanwa M12 or Futaba 4PKSR , they are the top of remote con ...

嘩！師兄毒死人咩！But they are real good! 而家D控都幾多功能, let me take some time to look look

. 相信 c hing 介绍的就算买贵都无买错

。 They are definitely potential targets to me. Thousand thx

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-27 08:46

ckcgary 發表於 2014-3-25 22:00
如果你唔係去車場玩或參加比賽，AM 都可以係 good start，好多師兄都用緊 2.4G 控，所以參加車聚大多唔會 ...

c hing, 比赛？想都唔敢想呀！只是想有个自己喜欢而能持久的兴趣。唔怕讲比 c hing知，我係果D眼快手慢派，眼高手低果D呢！像而家买车呀控呀敢，又要平又要正，什么都比人慢一万倍呀！

也多谢 c hing 们没有嫌棄小弟，什麼都不懂又问那么多

。而且还鼓励小弟拿部千年古车和控出来玩下先

其实我唔係怕jam 倒c hing 们的控，因为c hing们都在玩最新的2.4G，我只怕我的老AM 会否干扰到你们就大件事啦

。我这样说可能好白痴，但小弟真的不懂呀

作者: ckcgary 時間: 2014-3-27 12:14

flai 發表於 2014-3-27 08:46
c hing, 比赛？想都唔敢想呀！只是想有个自己喜欢而能持久的兴趣。唔怕讲比 c hing知，我係果D眼快手慢派 ...

我都係初哥，都係跟啲師兄學嘢......而且你嗰架唔係千年古車啦，我仲玩緊架爛頭爛尾 Serpent Impulse (唔係 Pro 喎)，係你前幾代嘅前輩嚟.......

只要你個 AM 控無壞而引起失控，一齊玩無乜大問題呀......試下先考慮買過 2.4G 囉......

師兄們星期六有局呀，可惜我今個星期應該去唔到.......

http://rc-evo.com/xbbs/thread-315762-2-1.html

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-27 20:07

ckcgary 發表於 2014-3-27 12:14
我都係初哥，都係跟啲師兄學嘢......而且你嗰架唔係千年古車啦，我仲玩緊架爛頭爛尾 Serpent Impulse (唔 ...

Than....k you c hing soooooo much

。真没想到 gary ching 和其他的 c hing 们会不断无私地给小弟意见和鼓励！没开车已觉自己好快。。。wo wo wo wo。。。。葱呀葱呀。。。
这两天在看遥控方面的资料，好像比车更复杂，车子好像比较容易点理解，因为眼睛可以看得到车子的外形呀，做工呀，外观呀，加上 c hing 们的 comment 呀！初步已锁定 x-ray， Serpent 和 Kyosho 几大牌子。但要等一下他们的新车！正好我还有千年车在手

，趁这时间上山向 c hing 们学武，可以等。

遥控呢！先参与c hing 们的 gathering, 与其子上谈冰，不如实实在在上山请教 c hing 们而家D 新控 2.4G 的问题

。不过我怕我去过一次之后 c hing 们比我烦死会改地盘放车就币喇

作者: ckcgary 時間: 2014-3-28 00:33
本帖最後由 ckcgary 於 2014-3-28 00:34 編輯

flai 發表於 2014-3-27 20:07
Than....k you c hing soooooo much。真没想到 gary ching 和其他的 c hing 们会不断无私地给 ...

主場兄師好人又有耐性，雖然我只參加過三四次，未參加前因為乜都唔識，已經煩咗佢幾星期解答我呢個問題老年，但還好耐心咁答我問題......你應該無乜可能煩得過我......

而且場中仲有其它好有經驗嘅師兄會幫手......

師兄們中有平控有貴控有原裝控，可以收集到唔同意見呀......

不過既然你目標係 top 嘅車種，買過貴啲嘅控好啲嘅......

作者: flai 時間: 2014-3-30 02:12

ckcgary 發表於 2014-3-28 00:33
主場兄師好人又有耐性，雖然我只參加過三四次，未參加前因為乜都唔識，已經煩咗佢幾星期解答我呢個問題老 ...

Gary C hing, 今晚你没去真系sai 晒。主场 c hing 真系好到没人有，他不停地用报纸吸光地下D水让我们玩！super nice

. 其他c hing 如你说什么车都有又好nice. 对我买车的目标帮了好多。谢谢

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