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頂! 一次過 Li-Po battery

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AMAT 發表於 2006-12-11 01:35:53 | 只看該作者
原帖由 i-Drift 於 2006-12-11 01:20 發表
Which of these two chargers is better for Li-Po?

ICE can only charge at 1C max.

How about Team Orion one?


理論上應該係一樣.
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AMAT 發表於 2006-12-11 01:48:11 | 只看該作者
宜家O的 TEAM ORION LI-PO做到幾錢一排?仲係要外國訂?
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kawada 發表於 2006-12-11 01:53:36 | 只看該作者
原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 01:48 發表
宜家O的 TEAM ORION LI-PO做到幾錢一排?仲係要外國訂?

No need .. available in KWS already .. but deemed to be out of stock recently .. cost u around 6XX depends on ur relationship
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AMAT 發表於 2006-12-11 02:01:51 | 只看該作者
原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 01:53 發表

No need .. available in KWS already .. but deemed to be out of stock recently .. cost u around 6XX depends on ur relationship


600蚊到......如果有MATCH電水準,仲襟用過佢......又輕......其實真係抵.....
因為我發覺宜家O的NI-MH電好唔襟!唔係MATCH都可以好快打柴!仲要好難焊!唔MATCH又唔爆,MATCH又快玩完.....
二百蚊一排.....鬥車要用六七排......都千四.....半年玩完.....又要買.....又要追容量.....
可能買三排到四排LI PO仲好!
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kawada 發表於 2006-12-11 02:07:23 | 只看該作者
原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 02:01 發表


600蚊到......如果有MATCH電水準,仲襟用過佢......又輕......其實真係抵.....
因為我發覺宜家O的NI-MH電好唔襟!唔係MATCH都可以好快打柴!仲要好難焊!唔MATCH又唔爆,MATCH又快玩完.....
二百蚊一排.....鬥車 ...

Thz our point .. as a casual & " H " driver like me .. we can simply charged them all up days b4 our RC fun .. and hassle free with any discharging stuffs .. But as for some pros it wont do any interest with them since its illegal for any club races .. and the gained weight got some balance concerns needa taken care of..

For us ?? damn care, we only enjoy the RC fun..
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馮馮ymc 發表於 2006-12-11 02:13:39 | 只看該作者
原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 02:07 發表

Thz our point .. as a casual & " H " driver like me .. we can simply charged them all up days b4 our RC fun .. and hassle free with any discharging stuffs .. But as for some pros it ...

yes!!!enjoy the RC fun.........
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 樓主| skyrobber 發表於 2006-12-11 03:16:09 | 只看該作者
原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 02:07 AM 發表

Thz our point .. as a casual & " H " driver like me .. we can simply charged them all up days b4 our RC fun .. and hassle free with any discharging stuffs .. But as for some pros it ...



Yes, what a good "damn Care"... only enjoy RC fun. damn care money, damn care the rule..
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 樓主| skyrobber 發表於 2006-12-11 03:18:05 | 只看該作者
原帖由 i-Drift 於 2006-12-11 01:20 AM 發表
Which of these two chargers is better for Li-Po?

ICE can only charge at 1C max.

How about Team Orion one?


Brother, 1C charge is enough la... Not 1A charge.. beware
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RC 發表於 2006-12-11 08:19:48 | 只看該作者
Orion charger can charge at 1C to 3C, if charge orion4800Lipo, u can set it on 1C 4A, about 1 and half hour be full charge. And remember don't and never discharge the LiPo battery.......
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kawada 發表於 2006-12-11 11:42:25 | 只看該作者
原帖由 RC 於 2006-12-11 08:19 發表
Orion charger can charge at 1C to 3C, if charge orion4800Lipo, u can set it on 1C 4A, about 1 and half hour be full charge. And remember don't and never discharge the LiPo battery.......


We had owned and run lipos for mths and its pretty safe and a great tool for EP leisures ...

Regarding to the charging procedures, there are tons of theories and knowledge spread widely around the gobal webs .. but I used the following settings and deemed get a great balance on both safety and run time prospectives..

1. Lipo 4800  : -

Charging current 4.8A
Charging time;  depends on the ultilized capacity .. if u drain the battery till Voltage cut ( LRP Competition - Lipo Auto; Mamba 6.4V ) it required to peak off at approx 60 mins
Run Time approx 10mins + & depends on the gear ratio, power combo etc
Cells selective : - Not required to do anything since ICE is auto detected upto 4 cells and Advantage can ONLY charge 2 cells Lipos

2. Lipo 3200

Charging current 3.2A
Charging time;  depends on the ultilized capacity .. if u drain the battery till Voltage cut ( LRP Competition - Lipo Auto; Mamba 6.4V ) it required to peak off at approx 45 mins
Run Time approx 7mins & depends on the gear ratio, power combo etc
Cells selective : - Not required to do anything since ICE is auto detected upto 4 cells and Advantage can ONLY charge 2 cells Lipos

ps... As per all Lipos character, it will milfunction and dead if either cell voltage had dropped below its defaulted voltage ( 6 to 6.4V on both 4800 and 3200 ) but the cons its .. u can charge them as frequent as u can and no discharge or matching processes required..

Regarding to the balancing procedures.. its not a must progress but u may say is NICE TO HAVE .... my opinion is, dont use what is uncertain, otherwise u will suffer from damages or even unexpected accident... catch some user advises from respective official webs .. Kokam's balancing doesnt required complicated device to do the job .. simply get urself a small male plug ( from Air rifle stores ) .. and follow through the followings ( but it works with my ICE only, since Orion is defaulted as 2 Cells charging )


1. Set ur Lipo charger to 1 cell, 3.7 volts & 4.8A charging current , 4800 mah for 4800 Kokam & also 1 Cell, 3.7V but 3.2A charging current, 3200 mah for 3200 Kokam
2. Connect the negative charge lead to the negative battery lead/socket and the positive charger lead to the balancing port, and charge
3. Once peaked off, you then will hook the positive charger lead to the positive battery lead/socket and the negative charger lead to the balancing port, and charge


Its balanced after the said processes, since 4800 got 2 pairs of cells and are in parallel. By the nature of their parallel connection they will ALWAYS stay balanced with each other. Current will flow from the high cell to the low cell so they are constantly in a state of equilibrium. You only have to balance the parallel pairs not the individual cells  .. 3200 is rather simple, its a 2 cells configuration ..

The above simple tricks is learnt from a foreign tech websites and works perfectly fine on me .. dont ask me y .. since i am not an expert of any kind,  adopt it or not, is a matter of your own call and proven to be " RISK FREE "
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SunLi 發表於 2006-12-11 11:54:34 | 只看該作者

回復 #70 kawada 的帖子

Great share! thanks, special on the 4800 battery balancing procedures...
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AMAT 發表於 2006-12-11 12:06:41 | 只看該作者
相信好快就可以比賽都用得LIPO~!

到時人人入貨~!正!
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SunLi 發表於 2006-12-11 12:15:39 | 只看該作者
原帖由 AMAT 於 2006-12-11 12:06 發表
相信好快就可以比賽都用得LIPO~!

到時人人入貨~!正!


到時架架車好多一舊舊,加鉛加到1500g
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s 發表於 2006-12-11 12:38:49 | 只看該作者
原帖由 skywork 於 2006-12-11 12:20 發表

宜家日本玩4cell,歐洲玩5cell
完全冇統一標準,好難流行喎!


hk統一玩3cell
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kawada 發表於 2006-12-11 13:11:46 | 只看該作者
Guys.. No matter how many cells .. there still isnt a compromised standard.. as long as we r comfortable and supported by available machines without major mod required, that will be fine ..

Regarding to the machine balancing issue .. i think Br Sunli is kidding,  i had scaled almost all type of batteries of coz these bricks .. if u really add 1500g on either side . ur machine will surely got another balancing problem lu ...  
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SunLi 發表於 2006-12-11 13:24:08 | 只看該作者
原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 13:11 發表
Guys.. No matter how many cells .. there still isnt a compromised standard.. as long as we r comfortable and supported by available machines without major mod required, that will be fine ..

Re ...


I mean the standard car weight for the race entry rules (1500 grams minimum)
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kawada 發表於 2006-12-11 13:26:05 | 只看該作者
原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-11 13:24 發表


I mean the standard car weight for the race entry rules (1500 grams minimum)

ic.. but not applying 1500gram extra lead .. sor dus kar lair .. dont scare me lar ..
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SunLi 發表於 2006-12-11 13:31:48 | 只看該作者
原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 13:26 發表

ic.. but not applying 1500gram extra lead .. sor dus kar lair .. dont scare me lar ..


I didn't said applying 1500gram extra lead...
I said"到時架架車好多一舊舊,加鉛加1500g"
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kawada 發表於 2006-12-11 13:36:23 | 只看該作者
原帖由 SunLi 於 2006-12-11 13:31 發表


I didn't said applying 1500gram extra lead...
I said"到時洛到1500g"


Got that Buddy   apologize for my misunderstanding ..  
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SunLi 發表於 2006-12-11 13:43:53 | 只看該作者
原帖由 kawada 於 2006-12-11 13:36 發表


Got that Buddy   apologize for my misunderstanding ..  


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