TB EVO IV vs TB EVO V

坦白講,未揸過TA05MS,仲要等我星期日攞車先講到.....

但以我玩TA05同415O既感覺嚟講......415有時O的O野嚟得好突然....例如轉灣....
但係TA05係好柔順.......因為佢係中置,同寬咗.....但TA05MS會唔會咁呢?未知.

Agree ah this time, AMAT. My friend's 415 is really not easy to set and run. 柔順 is always the gene of Tamiya's mid-class car. My friend's TA04 TRF gives extreme well in cornering when running 23T. I paid a lot to set my LCG to have such kind of cornering style.

ooo, that's what I'm talking about~ thanks a lot for the input guys!

TA05MS looks cool to me as well, it's just somehow I have the personal favor on shaft cars for now. So my money would go to TB EVO.

As I said I only know where to find IV but not V, could anyone tell me where I can get a V (IV would also be fine), with a lower price of course =)?

From what I see V gets all the improvements over IV, but I'm concerned with two things:
1. they say the chassis is even lower than IV, so would that mean easier to "hit" or "scratch" the bottom when running on a slightly bumpy ground? I'll be mostly using it to do "tricks" so I want a more durable chassis...
2. from the official pics even the connector to the wheels of V becomes metal, which are just plastics in IV, am I correct? If so, seems V is a better buy wor...

Thanks a lot. If things go well I'll get one this week, buy other accessories like motor and receiver next week and start my exciting journey of building~~

TB evo V has improved so much against TB evo IV. I am not sure where can you get a TB evo V. Wai go may be. Being lowed is the CG (Center of Gravity) not the ride high. Don't worry. BTW I see no different in the durability between TB evo iV and TB evo V. V of course better buy al!

原帖由 info2victor 於 2007-7-26 00:56 發表

                               
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ooo, that's what I'm talking about~ thanks a lot for the input guys!

TA05MS looks cool to me as well, it's just somehow I have the personal favor on shaft cars for now. So my money would go to ...

我諗你有個諗法上錯誤.......我相信你朋友係講車架低重心,唔係講車架離地距.......車架離地距係可以自己調整,唔需要擔心咩刮花個底.車架重心係指個車架二樓板底板距離縮短咗.成架車重心低咗咁解.

ooo, thanks a lot for the clarification. I really didn't know about that...

For now if the price difference is not too big I'll go for the better V. Last night I spent 30mins just to study the online assemble manual and the explosion view of IV and V. Seems V uses a bit more metal parts than IV (e.g. diff joint?), also some parts shown in the finished photo aren't in the manual (not those stated un-included parts).

Will ask around to see where I get get my EVO, and again, if anyone of you have information on the price and place, let me know.

Thanks a lot!!

原帖由 shungyan 於 2007-7-25 00:23 發表

                               
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Typo error jer

"It is in-btw those plastic toys and competition cars"

Plastic toys   I treat them all as toys.  Doesn't matter what material, as long as I can't ride on them as transportation.

Competition?    It's just a race, not a career.  Plastic can also play and race.  Have you raced with 教主's TT01 at YMC?  Don't know what you are going to call your TB5 after that.  Plus I don't see TA05MS very plastic bor.  

Using the plastic word will piss off a lot of brothers here.  Be nice!!!

GigaRacer,

You have mis-understood my meaning la

Plastic toys, race car and competition car are used to describe the purpose of design on the car. There is not direct connection to value of it. For example, Nissan has designed a Primera as a family car with the purpose to provide easy driving and comfort. At the same time, Nissan also has designed a S13 as a sport car with the purpose to provide driving fun and performance. But indeed, Primera out performs S13 in certain areas. Does this means they are on the same grade? I don't think so. At least from the design point of view, they are not. Their blood are not the same. It is not a problem to have a plastic toy. It is not a bad thing.

Even a TBevo5 may lose to a TT01 ( Please think what happen if we try to use TT01 to race a 6-cell modified brushless 3.5r you will see the different). But it's blood will not change! Their pre-defined application will not change also. TA05MS is not a plastic toy. But TA05 is. To let a plastic toy to be easy driving and fun, it is a state of art. However with this kind of design, a lot of thing will be sacrificed and cannot be compensated without big change.

For those brothers being unhappy with the word plastic, I am sorry. However this also reflect that those brothers doesn't know the true value of their cars.

原帖由 shungyan 於 2007-7-26 00:31 發表

                               
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Agree ah this time, AMAT. My friend's 415 is really not easy to set and run. 柔順 is always the gene of Tamiya's mid-class car. My friend's TA04 TRF gives extreme well in cornering when running 2 ...

Brother shungyan, you've a LCG with you?  Can you give your opinions about this car?

e.g.
- Spare parts availability
- Ease of maintenance
- Ability to cope with high speed motors such as 3.5R BL
- Torque steering problem
- Strip gear problem of shaft car
etc etc.

Thanks.  

- Spare parts availability: No problem waigo has a lot of them . Basically nothing easy to break
- Ease of maintenance: Pretty easy
- Ability to cope with high speed motors such as 3.5R BL: Don't do that gear may trip. The highest motor turn with this little bady I have tried is 9 turn so far. But I will put a 4.5r BL on it soon.
- Torque steering problem: Almost None!
- Strip gear problem of shaft car: The best I ever have (I have pro 4, TC3 and 4, TBevoIII)

原帖由 shungyan 於 2007-7-26 16:39 發表

                               
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- Spare parts availability: No problem waigo has a lot of them . Basically nothing easy to break
- Ease of maintenance: Pretty easy
- Ability to cope with high speed motors such as 3.5R BL: Don ...

Thanks brother.  How about the ease of changing spur gear?  Very difficult?

And is there many 虛位 with this car?

原帖由 binary 於 2007-7-26 16:43 發表

                               
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Thanks brother.  How about the ease of changing spur gear?  Very difficult?

And is there many 虛位 with this car?

All of Yokomo car also without 虛位

不過我覺得TA05MS 根本唔係TA05囉, 完全兩回事, 個名咁叫啫, 一架Plastic Toy, 一架high end車, 孖星諗唔到或唔想再出甚麼415乜乜物物咪叫TA05MS咁解啫.

原帖由 loman 於 2007-7-26 20:52 發表

                               
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All of Yokomo car also without 虛位

Thanks brother.

hey~ thanks for everyone's input. I've asked around to see where can I get a TB EVO, and the result is quite a few places are having V but so far only very few has IV left. The price difference is around 180 so most likely I'll go for a V, given so many improvements over IV, especially the steering control.

I'd have to say I like the overall shape of IV looks better to me. Somehow I don't really like the lip-shape of the bumper of V and the part holding it (B4). I wonder if I can buy or even make another bumper later...

Decision is almost made but I still welcome any suggestions. Will report my status as well.

Dont buy shaft drive car la, maintenance is the problem

thanks loman for your advice. But somehow I've been building shaft chassis like TT01 and TB01 and I still prefer shaft cars.

I understand that other types like belt cars do have their advantages like better balancing, right now I don't have the intention to switch =)

Anyway, it would still be great if you can tell me more about the maintenance problem of shaft car so I can pay attention to that.